Trump Backtracking?

[Kurieuo]

Well, it seems to me that Trump is backtracking on a lot of his "promises":

• Draining the swamp: he announced not being interested in going after Hillary
• Trump has taken donations to his foundation from Urkrainian Clinton Donor
• He spoke to "anti-common core" but is making pro common-core Betsy DeVos as U.S. Secretary of Education
• He wants to reform Obamacare rather than replace

Now, what may in fact take place, time will reveal. We can only judge based upon actions taken. But, I think there are concerning "red flags" appearing that the Trump presented in lead up to elections will be different (as I kind of expected) to the Trump who will be President.

[abelcainsbrother]

I don't buy it that he is backtracking on the issues he ran on. The media will not stop twisting the news to try to make Trump look bad,they want people who voted for Trump to think he is backtracking but I don't believe them.Remember believe the opposite of about 95% of what the media reports especially when it comes to Trump. They are not going to stop trying to make Trump look bad and yet they have no credibility at all.My advice is Do not believe anything the MSM says about Trump or you'll be wrong in the end. Trump ran rings around them politically althroughout this election and its going to continue.

[Kurieuo]

I"m sure your glossy picture of Trump's infallibility will soon wear off ACB.

Is Info Wars now a part of the mainstream media? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_sUhTWtvG4

David Knight looks at Trump's pick to head the Department of Education, Betsy DeVos. What is her position on Common Core & Charter Schools? What are her political ties with the establishment? Even having a Department of Education is a violation of the Constitution but it appears that DeVos may be a betrayal of the parents & teachers who believed Trump would fight the establishment's Common Core.

[Kurieuo]

Also, H. A. Goodman's channel:

WIKILEAKS BREAKING NEWS: Donald Trump Accepts Millions from Clinton Foundation Donor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCBc-r2IXCk

TRUMP WILL NOT JAIL HILLARY: Trump Refuses to Jail Clinton for Email, Clinton Foundation Scandals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu46uKdIH3A

[abelcainsbrother]

I"m sure your glossy picture of Trump's infallibility will soon wear off ACB.

Is Info Wars now a part of the mainstream media? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_sUhTWtvG4

David Knight looks at Trump's pick to head the Department of Education, Betsy DeVos. What is her position on Common Core & Charter Schools? What are her political ties with the establishment? Even having a Department of Education is a violation of the Constitution but it appears that DeVos may be a betrayal of the parents & teachers who believed Trump would fight the establishment's Common Core.

Sorry buddy I don't think Trump is infallible,it is not blindness because I supported him. I just do not understand all of this speculation before he is even in office. Imagine this, Trump has not forgot who his enemies are after the campaign and everything that was thrown at him. Perhaps this is a Trump set-up by trying to show he is willing to work with people who opposed him and see how it goes,if they turn on him? He can make changes. He is not even in office yet and yet people are already doubting him? Let's wait 6 months after he's in office before we speculate.Trump will not break his campaign promises and opposition can only stop him.

[abelcainsbrother]

Also, H. A. Goodman's channel:

WIKILEAKS BREAKING NEWS: Donald Trump Accepts Millions from Clinton Foundation Donor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCBc-r2IXCk

TRUMP WILL NOT JAIL HILLARY: Trump Refuses to Jail Clinton for Email, Clinton Foundation Scandals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu46uKdIH3A

It is not up to Trump to prosecute Hillary,it is up to the Attorney General Jeff Sessions. Trump has not ruled it out totally like is being reported,either.

[Kurieuo]

Like I said, there are some concerning "red flags" going up. What eventually transpires, time will tell.

[Jac3510]

He won't prosecute Clinton. He will have lobbyists in his administration. He won't totally upend education and get rid of Common Core. Further, he won't build a physical brick and mortar wall along the entire southern border, which was his giant promise.

With that said, no, Trump isn't backtracking. He's doing exactly what he has always done. It's just standard negotiation. Start with a big ask and then ultimately settle on something you can call a win. In this case, letting Clinton off the hook is a win because it makes him look like a unifier, which gives him political capital on other issues (and, by the way, serves nicely to deflect concerns about his own business dealings, sort of a never ending threat of check). He'll appoint quite a few mainstream Republicans and lobbyists both in the name of political experience and, again, as an overture of unity. This makes him look like a competent leader rather than a total revolutionary, but it gives him permission to bring in some real outsiders (take the Sec of Education, the Common Core lady, who is really, really big on a voucher program--classic Trump negotiation there). He will have a lot of wall built, but scaling back on the requirements gives him the capital, again, to get other concessions on other issues. Again, he wins by looking reasonable. Ditto for the infrastructure deal. Some democrats are going to get mad about the way it is structured and the media will cry foul, but they can't oppose too terribly much because it will still be an infrastructure deal which they have been asking for forever. Again, Trump wins that. And he probably gets concessions around repatriation, too, which will go a long way towards getting his tax plan implemented. He'll back off on illegal immigration and basically just adopt the Obama program of deporting criminals, and again, that makes him look reasonable and like the real winner. All that political capital will let him get some things he really does want like the ability to renegotiate trade deals--NAFTA and TPP in particular.

His most ardent supporters are going to feel betrayed. Too bad for them. I've been saying this the entire time. People like ACB have never understood what Trump really is. And for all that, he'll be a good POTUS overall. He'll give us a much more conservative SCOTUS than we would have had otherwise. He'll give us trade deals that will promote American manufacturing. He really will be more "populist" in the good sense of the term. And none of that is backtracking. It's just perfectly standard negotiation. Or if you want me to refer to Scott Adam's blog yet again, I'd label what he is doing and has been doing for a very long time "pacing and leading" (see this one also).

It isn't flip flopping or backtracking in the typical political sense. It is sales. He has always known what he was doing. He still does.

[abelcainsbrother]

Like I said, there are some concerning "red flags" going up. What eventually transpires, time will tell.

I know it seems that way but I'm not convinced yet. Trump won and it can change people's views that opposed him. They may have thought one way before but have changed their mind now that Trump won as a political underdog that they thought had no chance of actually winning,yet he won,and when you win people want to be apart of it. This happened when Reagan won too,people in your party like you if you win.There is no real evidence or reasons based on what Trump has said so far that should make us think he is backtracking and based on what Trump has said so far he has not backed off of anything he ran on including building the wall and having Mexico pay for it based on the trade deficit ,they owe us way way more than the wall costs to build.

This is all just speculation because of certain picks by Trump.It was reported that Trump has been thinking up ways we can rebuild our infrastructure and not have to use any government money,he is working on it,thinking like a businessman instead of a politician.I think he could really be thinking about trade deficits and using the money they owe us to pay for it.

[abelcainsbrother]

He won't prosecute Clinton. He will have lobbyists in his administration. He won't totally upend education and get rid of Common Core. Further, he won't build a physical brick and mortar wall along the entire southern border, which was his giant promise.

With that said, no, Trump isn't backtracking. He's doing exactly what he has always done. It's just standard negotiation. Start with a big ask and then ultimately settle on something you can call a win. In this case, letting Clinton off the hook is a win because it makes him look like a unifier, which gives him political capital on other issues (and, by the way, serves nicely to deflect concerns about his own business dealings, sort of a never ending threat of check). He'll appoint quite a few mainstream Republicans and lobbyists both in the name of political experience and, again, as an overture of unity. This makes him look like a competent leader rather than a total revolutionary, but it gives him permission to bring in some real outsiders (take the Sec of Education, the Common Core lady, who is really, really big on a voucher program--classic Trump negotiation there). He will have a lot of wall built, but scaling back on the requirements gives him the capital, again, to get other concessions on other issues. Again, he wins by looking reasonable. Ditto for the infrastructure deal. Some democrats are going to get mad about the way it is structured and the media will cry foul, but they can't oppose too terribly much because it will still be an infrastructure deal which they have been asking for forever. Again, Trump wins that. And he probably gets concessions around repatriation, too, which will go a long way towards getting his tax plan implemented. He'll back off on illegal immigration and basically just adopt the Obama program of deporting criminals, and again, that makes him look reasonable and like the real winner. All that political capital will let him get some things he really does want like the ability to renegotiate trade deals--NAFTA and TPP in particular.

His most ardent supporters are going to feel betrayed. Too bad for them. I've been saying this the entire time. People like ACB have never understood what Trump really is. And for all that, he'll be a good POTUS overall. He'll give us a much more conservative SCOTUS than we would have had otherwise. He'll give us trade deals that will promote American manufacturing. He really will be more "populist" in the good sense of the term. And none of that is backtracking. It's just perfectly standard negotiation. Or if you want me to refer to Scott Adam's blog yet again, I'd label what he is doing and has been doing for a very long time "pacing and leading" (see this one also).

It isn't flip flopping or backtracking in the typical political sense. It is sales. He has always known what he was doing. He still does.

I think you are being a little too pessimistic about Trump.This is something that I think people are overlooking,even for the parts of the alt media that helped him get elected. I see too many people judging Trump based on how politics has always been done and this is a mistake,I think. Trump is not going to be the typical political President we are used to.Trump will have a totally different approach than what we are used to politically.Trump is a businessman and this is much different than the typical politicians we are used to.I do not believe it will be politics as usual with Trump,big change is coming and it really already has changed because of Trump. This gets overlooked by so many but this is a real Trump political revolution and Trump will not let us down,his ego won't allow it.He is a winner and he will win as President too.If I was looking at this like typical politics? I'd probably agree with you,but we have real change coming like we have not really ever seen before politically. I know I'm going out on a limb and this is my own original political view,but it is how I see it.

[Kurieuo]

Well, I hope ACB is more right, but feel like Jac is.

I see it as so important that the established order be washed out, that was the hope of many who voted for Trump -- a silent revolution of sorts that up-ended the corruption, put a light on past "sins" and cleaned up the US administration. Such, was my main hope in and for Trump.

If Trump doesn't clean such out, and indeed becomes just another part of it, the puss will continue the fester and it'll lead to the eventual a big collapse of America, like all great nations throughout history. In a spiritual way, I see karma-like rules with powerful nations -- when nations go astray then such normally culminates with a big downfall.

Nonetheless, the cycle is perhaps inevitable so long as human leaders are at the wheel.

[abelcainsbrother]

Well, I hope ACB is more right, but feel like Jac is.

I see it as so important that the established order be washed out, that was the hope of many who voted for Trump -- a silent revolution of sorts that up-ended the corruption, put a light on past "sins" and cleaned up the US administration. Such, was my main hope in and for Trump.

If Trump doesn't clean such out, and indeed becomes just another part of it, the puss will continue the fester and it'll lead to the eventual a big collapse of America, like all great nations throughout history. In a spiritual way, I see karma-like rules with powerful nations -- when nations go astray then such normally culminates with a big downfall.

Nonetheless, the cycle is perhaps inevitable so long as human leaders are at the wheel.

Well this is all just speculation based on certain Trump picks and we can be negative and pessimistic in our speculation or positive and optimistic like I am. I see and hear the negative speculation but the only thing people are going on are picks by Trump but there is really no reason underneath this negative rhetoric to go along with it. I guess it is just easier to be pessimistic for most people,but I'm not based on what Trump has actually said so far and based on this there is no reason to think negatively,even when it comes to indicting Hillary,even if he was going to do it now would not be a good time to say it and he has not totally ruled it out,he is just acting like it is not a real priority right now. He has not said it will not happen,plus if he did? Obama might pardon Hillary although I'm not sure if he can since she was not charged with anything. But still,it has not been totally ruled out by Trump,it is still there in the background based on what he's said.

[abelcainsbrother]

Also, H. A. Goodman's channel:

WIKILEAKS BREAKING NEWS: Donald Trump Accepts Millions from Clinton Foundation Donor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCBc-r2IXCk

TRUMP WILL NOT JAIL HILLARY: Trump Refuses to Jail Clinton for Email, Clinton Foundation Scandals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu46uKdIH3A

This info came from the lib media which has absolutely no credibility,no matter who regurgitates it and spreads it around. The New York Times? You believe them or the AP? I don't believe them one-bit.

[abelcainsbrother]

I think it is a good idea to believe the opposite of about 95% of what the liberal media reports but here is the actual transcript of the recent meeting Trump had with the New York Times and if you read this transcript and ignore how they have twisted things he has said out of context you can see Trump is not backtracking at all on anything he ran on.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/23/us/po ... .html?_r=1

[abelcainsbrother]

Here is what Rush Limbaugh has to say about this Trump backtracking talk.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/ ... _interview