Trump Backtracking?

[Kurieuo]

Abe, I'll listen to truth no matter who says it. As I've told many, I don't dismiss alternative media sources, but neither will I dismiss mainstream simply because it's them reporting it. If someone puts something on the table, then to not commit a genetic fallacy, it stands to be looked at and categorised.

In this instance, that is not prosecuting the Clinton's, Trump has actually said words, as did his campaign manager who mentioned the cordiality between Trump and Bill Clinton when the latter called to congratulate him. Multiple sources confirm this is his intention, nonetheless I'm sure he won't create barriers either with FBI and the like.

Here's another report by Gary Franchi:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYDWO9TS3t8&t=190s

[abelcainsbrother]

Abe, I'll listen to truth no matter who says it. As I've told many, I don't dismiss alternative media sources, but neither will I dismiss mainstream simply because it's them reporting it. If someone puts something on the table, then to not commit a genetic fallacy, it stands to be looked at and categorised.

In this instance, that is not prosecuting the Clinton's, Trump has actually said words, as did his campaign manager who mentioned the cordiality between Trump and Bill Clinton when the latter called to congratulate him. Multiple sources confirm this is his intention, nonetheless I'm sure he won't create barriers either with FBI and the like.

Here's another report by Gary Franchi:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYDWO9TS3t8&t=190s

I know you posted many alternative news sources that were pro-Trump leading up to the election,eventhough others doubted them news sources and they turned out to be right including Alex Jones while everybody else were wrong.Alex Jones was right that the pollsters were oversampling Democrats in their polls by 5 to even 10 points and he was right which Wikileaks confirmed and the election results proved.

I understand the concern about prosecuting Hillary and now whether or not it will happen but despite what others have said around Trump it has not been moved off the table and Trump made that clear in his meeting with the New York Times but Trump is ready to focus on tax cuts,immigration,etc now and it seems that this means it is not going to happen now but nobody really knows.It is just not high on the radar for the Trump administration right now but there is still an ongoing investigation going on concerning the Clinton foundation and so it is not totally over. Meanwhile the New York Times reported that Trump has removed prosecuting Hillary from the table and is not going to prosecute her eventhough Trump did not say this in their meeting with him,yet they reported it anyway and this has been picked up by other news outlets even alt-news sources and it has caused pessimism now,but I'm not buying into it. I did not expect Trump to move to prosecute Hillary now I thought it might happen later on. I expected him to focus more on the issues he ran on to fix which is what he is doing.

Trump is now in the process of trying to bring people together now and not be so divisive right now. I think it is a good move politically but I doubt it is going to work with the left. The left is going to try to destroy him anyway they can and he is probably going to have to take the gloves off again,but it is good to see him at least try to show he can be reasonable and wants to bring the country together now after such a nasty campaign.

[Jac3510]

No question that Trump is going to bring change to the way Washington operates. If nothing else, he's shown that the traditional campaign is completely beatable. But more, he'll bring a substantive change to foreign policy. He'll bring substantive changes to the way we do trade deals. He'll pull both Republicans and Democrats in a more populist direction, which is to say, a more nationalist direction. The old globalism of Reagan and Clinton is pretty much dead. But is he going to "drain the swamp" in the extreme sense of getting rid of the entire establishment?

Of course not. He's just going to change the way Washington actually operates. It's going to more directly related to the people. Direct communication. That started under Obama, and Trump just perfected it. Or at least he's perfected it as much as we've seen so far. Someone else may take it further still in the future.

But the expectations of both the Alex Jones types and the left as a whole, that's just completely unhinged and unrealistic. Not only is not true of Trump (it never has been, and anybody who would even take five seconds to look at what the guy has been saying for the past forty years would know that immediately), it's not true of Washington or American politics more generally. The thing's a freakin' ocean-liner. Things don't change on the spot.

Yes, Trump will be revolutionary. He's going to change the way we think and talk about economic and international issues. He's going to change the way we campaign and the way politicians talk to us. He's going to change who can be a politician and who can't. But if you want to know what he is not going to do, go and read ABC on the one side or ACB on the other and you'll see exactly that. Neither group understands or has ever understood what's going on. He's a salesman, and if you want to understand him, you have to look at him in that way.

[abelcainsbrother]

No question that Trump is going to bring change to the way Washington operates. If nothing else, he's shown that the traditional campaign is completely beatable. But more, he'll bring a substantive change to foreign policy. He'll bring substantive changes to the way we do trade deals. He'll pull both Republicans and Democrats in a more populist direction, which is to say, a more nationalist direction. The old globalism of Reagan and Clinton is pretty much dead. But is he going to "drain the swamp" in the extreme sense of getting rid of the entire establishment?

Of course not. He's just going to change the way Washington actually operates. It's going to more directly related to the people. Direct communication. That started under Obama, and Trump just perfected it. Or at least he's perfected it as much as we've seen so far. Someone else may take it further still in the future.

But the expectations of both the Alex Jones types and the left as a whole, that's just completely unhinged and unrealistic. Not only is not true of Trump (it never has been, and anybody who would even take five seconds to look at what the guy has been saying for the past forty years would know that immediately), it's not true of Washington or American politics more generally. The thing's a freakin' ocean-liner. Things don't change on the spot.

Yes, Trump will be revolutionary. He's going to change the way we think and talk about economic and international issues. He's going to change the way we campaign and the way politicians talk to us. He's going to change who can be a politician and who can't. But if you want to know what he is not going to do, go and read ABC on the one side or ACB on the other and you'll see exactly that. Neither group understands or has ever understood what's going on. He's a salesman, and if you want to understand him, you have to look at him in that way.

I don't think anybody including Alex Jones types thinks it would be easy to really drain the swamp,but despite how unlikely it is because the corruption in the establishment effects both parties and there is money involved but based on what Trump ran on he has a mandate to really drain it. You probably think the corruption is such that Trump or nobody could really clean it out,but it could happen and Trump has a mandate to do it. He could do it if he really wanted to and especially if he continues to communicate with the America people. It really cannot be just him but would require help from the American people. There has been so much corruption exposed in this election and I think it is going to continue when Trump is in office. But if Trump really wanted to drain the swamp? RICO statutes and actually prosecuting could clean it up.We have politicians who abandoned the Constitution and made secret deals with globalists which is treason.Treason is a crime.

You may not know this but there are the good guys in our government,in the intelligence agencies,etc and they see the corruption and are sickened by it and they have been leaking out info exposing it and it is going to continue when Trump is in office and Trump really can do something about it if he gets the American people behind him.