Obama's Birth Certificate authentic - NO question?
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Obama's Birth Certificate authentic - NO question?
This was on the Drudgereport this morning: http://www.wnd.com/2016/12/investigator ... ion-image/
Note that the documents compared have identical placements - this with documents entered on an old typewriter with a roller - making multiple points of perfect congruence with another document impossible. This means the only possibility is digital replication. Interesting. Of course, it doesn't prove that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii. Even he probably can't be certain. But what it may prove is that the document Obama asserts proves where he was born, doesn't do so. And, of course, the bigger question is - if no one, including Obama, wasn't worried about that, why the apparent forged document, and what is that source.
If one is going to address the assertions of the researchers in the article, please stick with the technical facts, and not pointless attacks upon the political background of those initiating the research.
Note that the documents compared have identical placements - this with documents entered on an old typewriter with a roller - making multiple points of perfect congruence with another document impossible. This means the only possibility is digital replication. Interesting. Of course, it doesn't prove that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii. Even he probably can't be certain. But what it may prove is that the document Obama asserts proves where he was born, doesn't do so. And, of course, the bigger question is - if no one, including Obama, wasn't worried about that, why the apparent forged document, and what is that source.
If one is going to address the assertions of the researchers in the article, please stick with the technical facts, and not pointless attacks upon the political background of those initiating the research.
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As long as certain folks remain in power, we may never know for certain this side of heaven.
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Crazy conservatives and their conspiracy theories!*
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Thank you...RickD wrote:Crazy conservatives and their conspiracy theories!*
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Again, let's stick to evidence. Explain how these points of congruence, originally entered on "analog" entered documents can be possible. The other thing that is interesting is it took Obama a LONG time to even produce the document in question. One would think, it would have greatly been in his political interests to have quickly and decisively settled the matter - that is, IF the ability to do so exists. IF the contents of the linked article, and especially the asserted evidences, are accurate, then A) there is no currently examinable PROOF of where Obama was born, and B) someone forged this document, and C) the questions of who would do that and why immediately arise.
Be forewarned: A response of, "Oh, those crazy Birthers," will merely show a response of someone not wanting to address the implications of the evidence. The ONLY way to dismiss the evidence is to be able to refute it. Really, I'm agnostic on where he was born - at least for now.
Be forewarned: A response of, "Oh, those crazy Birthers," will merely show a response of someone not wanting to address the implications of the evidence. The ONLY way to dismiss the evidence is to be able to refute it. Really, I'm agnostic on where he was born - at least for now.
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Maybe he was born in Australia?
Who would want to admit to that?
Who would want to admit to that?
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I'm actually related to him. True story. Every time I tell someone, they always tell me that I shouldn't admit it.Nessa wrote:Maybe he was born in Australia?
Who would want to admit to that?
His mom's descendants and my dad's, converge with someone who came over on the Mayflower.
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
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“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
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No reason to address the technicalities, phil. You can't refute a conspiracy theory. *shrug*
And that, brothers and sisters, is the kind of foolishness you get people who insist on denying biblical theism. A good illustration of any as the length people will go to avoid acknowledging basic truths.Proinsias wrote:I don't think you are hearing me. Preference for ice cream is a moral issue
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Ah, we now have non-answer number one!Jac: No reason to address the technicalities, phil. You can't refute a conspiracy theory. *shrug*
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And the first baseless defense of the conspiracy theory.
And that, brothers and sisters, is the kind of foolishness you get people who insist on denying biblical theism. A good illustration of any as the length people will go to avoid acknowledging basic truths.Proinsias wrote:I don't think you are hearing me. Preference for ice cream is a moral issue
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No, I don't believe in some conspiracy about this. I don't know enough about the research entailed to make such an assessment. I merely find it interesting. But IF the technical findings are accurate, and as described, then SOMEONE doctored that document. And would I doubt it at least possible to do - it's quite easy, actually. Do I trust all that assert it's all just a conspiracy - well, some of those people I HIGHLY distrust. Yet, that doesn't mean it's true. Again, the evidence - I'm open-minded enough to hear it. I know a LOT about digital manipulation - would be a piece of cake to do. But is it true?Jac: And the first baseless defense of the conspiracy theory.
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No. It's not true.
And that, brothers and sisters, is the kind of foolishness you get people who insist on denying biblical theism. A good illustration of any as the length people will go to avoid acknowledging basic truths.Proinsias wrote:I don't think you are hearing me. Preference for ice cream is a moral issue
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I knew there was something twisted about you.RickD wrote:I'm actually related to Obama. True story. Every time I tell someone, they always tell me that I shouldn't admit it.
His mom's descendants and my dad's, converge with someone who came over on the Mayflower.
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I can''t freaking wait for a tell-all Obama book to come out in a year. It will tell us so much about what really happened behind those gates at Pennsylvania Avenue.
You might be thinking, "But a book of embarrassing truths is inconsequential to a non-president" Not so. Obama is not leaving D.C. any year soon. He intends to always remain within driving distance of a camera to film his "words of disapproval" to whatever Trump does.
Please, I beg of you, somebody in the White House right now please have the bravery to tell us what really went on.
You might be thinking, "But a book of embarrassing truths is inconsequential to a non-president" Not so. Obama is not leaving D.C. any year soon. He intends to always remain within driving distance of a camera to film his "words of disapproval" to whatever Trump does.
Please, I beg of you, somebody in the White House right now please have the bravery to tell us what really went on.
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Birtherism isn't conservative, it's crackpot fringe populist.RickD wrote:Crazy conservatives and their conspiracy theories!*
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