Understanding the Trinity

[bbyrd009]

Please don't babble in strange tongues if there's nobody who can interpret.

And btw bbyrd009,

I see the fruit in your theology. It's chopped candied fruit and/or dried fruit, nuts, and spices.

this is why i choose not to get involved in this, even though my views of the trinity are not good.

hmm. could you explain why? briefly? Ok, not "why," but "what," then. What has the trinity evidenced as "not good" to you? Of course you don't have to, and i do not need to put you on the spot or anything; the fruit is already plain, why offend people who have a different opinion, right.

As to the "why," of course that part i understand, we seek the approval of men, naturally, and although this is made into a "bad" thing, it is not; it is one of the ways we have to justify our positions, and let's not forget that we are advised to seek agreement, also, which is just another way of putting the other side of that coin, as sure as your witness of the fr...results of the trinity from your pov would also illuminate the issue, but even though there is no way they could be proven "false," because after all they are just opinions (which is all i have, too), you recognize that you would have to suffer a "stoning" for this, so to speak, and i have already been hit with that exact stone a couple times already, lol, the spot is just getting numb now, or whatever, so Rick thinks I'm a fruitcake, then. Rick is entitled to an opinion, too. But then i notice Rick didn't bring a prophet, saying "Trinity," either, or anything else, for that matter, for support, so i trust that everyone will see what they need to see. Maybe Rick is right!

it isnt that i seek the approval of men. if i did, i would not be here at all, since much of what i believe is strongly disputed. i just dont have the time nor the desire to debate on whether or not the trinity is real or false. maybe one day i will, but not today.

ah i see. ya, i would pass on the debate, myself, not interested in another pointless debate, wherein no fruit can be witnessed.

[RickD]

to put it bluntly, i dont agree with the trinity. I do not have a problem with my views, so i dont need to fix them. in my opinion, it is the trinity believer who should change their view.

And that makes no sense, in light of what you previously said regarding your views about the trinity being not good. How can you say on one hand that your views aren't good, and on the other hand, say you have no problem with your views?

Unless...

Instead of meaning what you actually said, you made a grammatical error perhaps?

Let's see if we can fix the confusion.

Again, you said:

this is why i choose not to get involved in this, even though my views of the trinity are not good.

As worded, your sentence is saying that your views aren't good. In other words, your views are flawed.

Perhaps you really meant to say:

this is why i choose not to get involved in this, even though my views of I see the trinity are as not good.

[RickD]

This debate with bbyrd is pointless.

He's admitted that he's not even a Christian. Why anyone would further debate the doctrine of the Trinity with someone who isn't even a Christian, is a waste of time.

[jenna]

to put it bluntly, i dont agree with the trinity. I do not have a problem with my views, so i dont need to fix them. in my opinion, it is the trinity believer who should change their view.

And that makes no sense, in light of what you previously said regarding your views about the trinity being not good. How can you say on one hand that your views aren't good, and on the other hand, say you have no problem with your views?

Unless...

Instead of meaning what you actually said, you made a grammatical error perhaps?

Let's see if we can fix the confusion.

Again, you said:

this is why i choose not to get involved in this, even though my views of the trinity are not good.

As worded, your sentence is saying that your views aren't good. In other words, your views are flawed.

Perhaps you really meant to say:

this is why i choose not to get involved in this, even though my views of I see the trinity are as not good.

well, as i said before, i am not feeling good today, so please forgive my grammatical errors. when i say my views on the trinity arent good, i mean that i have no good feelings towards it. to put plainly, i do not believe in it. so yes, you are right, i see the trinity as not good.

[crochet1949]

Hi Jenna
Sorry you're not feeling good. I've been following this dialogue -- so I'm curious as to what your views of the trinity Are. I'm interesting in hearing Your views.

[crochet1949]

At No point in a person's life will he/she become a 'god'

So then, nevermind what God said,

"6I said, "You are gods; you are all sons of the Most High"

for now, ok? Poof, there you go, it is gone.

Regarding your quote -- where is that from? "6{i} ...." ?

[jenna]

Hi Jenna
Sorry you're not feeling good. I've been following this dialogue -- so I'm curious as to what your views of the trinity Are. I'm interesting in hearing Your views.

i dont believe in it. i am tired right now, and ready for bed, i will post a little more tomorrow.

[Kurieuo]

@Jenna, when you're awake, I'd ask what you believe of the nature of Christ, and secondly the Holy Spirit?

[jenna]

@Jenna, when you're awake, I'd ask what you believe of the nature of Christ, and secondly the Holy Spirit?

I believe there is God the Father, God the son. I do not believe the holy spirit to be a being.

[Kurieuo]

@Jenna, when you're awake, I'd ask what you believe of the nature of Christ, and secondly the Holy Spirit?

I believe there is God the Father, God the son. I do not believe the holy spirit to be a being.

So you're kind of a Binitarian then? Just wondering, you have developed your own beliefs, but what religious influences or churches have you been part of?

[jenna]

@Jenna, when you're awake, I'd ask what you believe of the nature of Christ, and secondly the Holy Spirit?

I believe there is God the Father, God the son. I do not believe the holy spirit to be a being.

So you're kind of a Binitarian then? Just wondering, you have developed your own beliefs, but what religious influences or churches have you been part of?

well, i grew up in the Worldwide Church of God. although now they have changed so much from what i believe in, since they no longer teach the same. But i do still hold to what they once taught.

[bbyrd009]

This debate with bbyrd is pointless.

He's admitted that he's not even a Christian. Why anyone would further debate the doctrine of the Trinity with someone who isn't even a Christian, is a waste of time.

no, i have not admitted that i am not a Christian, sorry.

[bbyrd009]

to put it bluntly, i dont agree with the trinity. I do not have a problem with my views, so i dont need to fix them. in my opinion, it is the trinity believer who should change their view.

And that makes no sense, in light of what you previously said regarding your views about the trinity being not good. How can you say on one hand that your views aren't good, and on the other hand, say you have no problem with your views?

Unless...

Instead of meaning what you actually said, you made a grammatical error perhaps?

Let's see if we can fix the confusion.

Again, you said:

this is why i choose not to get involved in this, even though my views of the trinity are not good.

As worded, your sentence is saying that your views aren't good. In other words, your views are flawed.

Perhaps you really meant to say:

this is why i choose not to get involved in this, even though my views of I see the trinity are as not good.

well, as i said before, i am not feeling good today, so please forgive my grammatical errors. when i say my views on the trinity arent good, i mean that i have no good feelings towards it. to put plainly, i do not believe in it. so yes, you are right, i see the trinity as not good.

you were perfectly clear the first time, Jenna; it was abundantly obvious what you meant.

[bbyrd009]

At No point in a person's life will he/she become a 'god'

So then, nevermind what God said,

"6I said, "You are gods; you are all sons of the Most High"

for now, ok? Poof, there you go, it is gone.

Regarding your quote -- where is that from? "6{i} ...." ?

Psalm 82:6, which you can also see by highlighting, Rclicking, and then searching the highlighted passage...quoted by Jesus @

Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said, you are gods’?

[bbyrd009]

This debate with bbyrd is pointless.

He's admitted that he's not even a Christian. Why anyone would further debate the doctrine of the Trinity with someone who isn't even a Christian, is a waste of time.

but ty for demonstrating the fruit of the Trinity doctrine, in living color.