ah i see. ya, i would pass on the debate, myself, not interested in another pointless debate, wherein no fruit can be witnessed.jenna wrote:it isnt that i seek the approval of men. if i did, i would not be here at all, since much of what i believe is strongly disputed. i just dont have the time nor the desire to debate on whether or not the trinity is real or false. maybe one day i will, but not today.bbyrd009 wrote:hmm. could you explain why? briefly? Ok, not "why," but "what," then. What has the trinity evidenced as "not good" to you? Of course you don't have to, and i do not need to put you on the spot or anything; the fruit is already plain, why offend people who have a different opinion, right.jenna wrote:this is why i choose not to get involved in this, even though my views of the trinity are not good.RickD wrote:Please don't babble in strange tongues if there's nobody who can interpret.
And btw bbyrd009,
I see the fruit in your theology. It's chopped candied fruit and/or dried fruit, nuts, and spices.
As to the "why," of course that part i understand, we seek the approval of men, naturally, and although this is made into a "bad" thing, it is not; it is one of the ways we have to justify our positions, and let's not forget that we are advised to seek agreement, also, which is just another way of putting the other side of that coin, as sure as your witness of the fr...results of the trinity from your pov would also illuminate the issue, but even though there is no way they could be proven "false," because after all they are just opinions (which is all i have, too), you recognize that you would have to suffer a "stoning" for this, so to speak, and i have already been hit with that exact stone a couple times already, lol, the spot is just getting numb now, or whatever, so Rick thinks I'm a fruitcake, then. Rick is entitled to an opinion, too. But then i notice Rick didn't bring a prophet, saying "Trinity," either, or anything else, for that matter, for support, so i trust that everyone will see what they need to see. Maybe Rick is right!
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And that makes no sense, in light of what you previously said regarding your views about the trinity being not good. How can you say on one hand that your views aren't good, and on the other hand, say you have no problem with your views?jenna wrote:to put it bluntly, i dont agree with the trinity. I do not have a problem with my views, so i dont need to fix them. in my opinion, it is the trinity believer who should change their view.
Unless...
Instead of meaning what you actually said, you made a grammatical error perhaps?
Let's see if we can fix the confusion.
Again, you said:
As worded, your sentence is saying that your views aren't good. In other words, your views are flawed.this is why i choose not to get involved in this, even though my views of the trinity are not good.
Perhaps you really meant to say:
this is why i choose not to get involved in this, even though my views of I see the trinity are as not good.
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
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24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
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This debate with bbyrd is pointless.
He's admitted that he's not even a Christian. Why anyone would further debate the doctrine of the Trinity with someone who isn't even a Christian, is a waste of time.
He's admitted that he's not even a Christian. Why anyone would further debate the doctrine of the Trinity with someone who isn't even a Christian, is a waste of time.
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“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
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24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
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well, as i said before, i am not feeling good today, so please forgive my grammatical errors. when i say my views on the trinity arent good, i mean that i have no good feelings towards it. to put plainly, i do not believe in it. so yes, you are right, i see the trinity as not good.RickD wrote:And that makes no sense, in light of what you previously said regarding your views about the trinity being not good. How can you say on one hand that your views aren't good, and on the other hand, say you have no problem with your views?jenna wrote:to put it bluntly, i dont agree with the trinity. I do not have a problem with my views, so i dont need to fix them. in my opinion, it is the trinity believer who should change their view.
Unless...
Instead of meaning what you actually said, you made a grammatical error perhaps?
Let's see if we can fix the confusion.
Again, you said:As worded, your sentence is saying that your views aren't good. In other words, your views are flawed.this is why i choose not to get involved in this, even though my views of the trinity are not good.
Perhaps you really meant to say:this is why i choose not to get involved in this, even though my views of I see the trinity are as not good.
some things are better left unsaid, which i generally realize after i have said them
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Hi Jenna
Sorry you're not feeling good. I've been following this dialogue -- so I'm curious as to what your views of the trinity Are. I'm interesting in hearing Your views.
Sorry you're not feeling good. I've been following this dialogue -- so I'm curious as to what your views of the trinity Are. I'm interesting in hearing Your views.
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bbyrd009 wrote:So then, nevermind what God said,crochet1949 wrote:At No point in a person's life will he/she become a 'god'
"6I said, "You are gods; you are all sons of the Most High"
for now, ok? Poof, there you go, it is gone.
Regarding your quote -- where is that from? "6{i} ...." ?
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i dont believe in it. i am tired right now, and ready for bed, i will post a little more tomorrow.crochet1949 wrote:Hi Jenna
Sorry you're not feeling good. I've been following this dialogue -- so I'm curious as to what your views of the trinity Are. I'm interesting in hearing Your views.
some things are better left unsaid, which i generally realize after i have said them
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@Jenna, when you're awake, I'd ask what you believe of the nature of Christ, and secondly the Holy Spirit?
"Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved." (Romans 10:13)
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I believe there is God the Father, God the son. I do not believe the holy spirit to be a being.Kurieuo wrote:@Jenna, when you're awake, I'd ask what you believe of the nature of Christ, and secondly the Holy Spirit?
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So you're kind of a Binitarian then? Just wondering, you have developed your own beliefs, but what religious influences or churches have you been part of?jenna wrote:I believe there is God the Father, God the son. I do not believe the holy spirit to be a being.Kurieuo wrote:@Jenna, when you're awake, I'd ask what you believe of the nature of Christ, and secondly the Holy Spirit?
"Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved." (Romans 10:13)
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well, i grew up in the Worldwide Church of God. although now they have changed so much from what i believe in, since they no longer teach the same. But i do still hold to what they once taught.Kurieuo wrote:So you're kind of a Binitarian then? Just wondering, you have developed your own beliefs, but what religious influences or churches have you been part of?jenna wrote:I believe there is God the Father, God the son. I do not believe the holy spirit to be a being.Kurieuo wrote:@Jenna, when you're awake, I'd ask what you believe of the nature of Christ, and secondly the Holy Spirit?
some things are better left unsaid, which i generally realize after i have said them
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no, i have not admitted that i am not a Christian, sorry.RickD wrote:This debate with bbyrd is pointless.
He's admitted that he's not even a Christian. Why anyone would further debate the doctrine of the Trinity with someone who isn't even a Christian, is a waste of time.
"Creation is continuous, and never stops."
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you were perfectly clear the first time, Jenna; it was abundantly obvious what you meant.jenna wrote:well, as i said before, i am not feeling good today, so please forgive my grammatical errors. when i say my views on the trinity arent good, i mean that i have no good feelings towards it. to put plainly, i do not believe in it. so yes, you are right, i see the trinity as not good.RickD wrote:And that makes no sense, in light of what you previously said regarding your views about the trinity being not good. How can you say on one hand that your views aren't good, and on the other hand, say you have no problem with your views?jenna wrote:to put it bluntly, i dont agree with the trinity. I do not have a problem with my views, so i dont need to fix them. in my opinion, it is the trinity believer who should change their view.
Unless...
Instead of meaning what you actually said, you made a grammatical error perhaps?
Let's see if we can fix the confusion.
Again, you said:As worded, your sentence is saying that your views aren't good. In other words, your views are flawed.this is why i choose not to get involved in this, even though my views of the trinity are not good.
Perhaps you really meant to say:this is why i choose not to get involved in this, even though my views of I see the trinity are as not good.
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Psalm 82:6, which you can also see by highlighting, Rclicking, and then searching the highlighted passage...quoted by Jesus @crochet1949 wrote:bbyrd009 wrote:So then, nevermind what God said,crochet1949 wrote:At No point in a person's life will he/she become a 'god'
"6I said, "You are gods; you are all sons of the Most High"
for now, ok? Poof, there you go, it is gone.
Regarding your quote -- where is that from? "6{i} ...." ?
Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said, you are gods’?
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but ty for demonstrating the fruit of the Trinity doctrine, in living color.RickD wrote:This debate with bbyrd is pointless.
He's admitted that he's not even a Christian. Why anyone would further debate the doctrine of the Trinity with someone who isn't even a Christian, is a waste of time.
"Creation is continuous, and never stops."