God is love because God can NOT lack anything and hate or indifference is a lack of Love so God, if He be God MUST be Love.
A other-centered, complete, lacking nothing love.
Not a human concept of love BUT an all encompassing force that creates and sustains ALL.
God suffers with us
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Re: God suffers with us
Can I say then that if God is love, he also is suffering?
If he cannot have emotions and is unchangable.....
If he cannot have emotions and is unchangable.....
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
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-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
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Re: God suffers with us
You can say that, but you'd be wrong.1over137 wrote:Can I say then that if God is love, he also is suffering?
If he cannot have emotions and is unchangable.....
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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Re: God suffers with us
God's love is far above and deeper than we as mere created human beings can rightly know in this mortal life.
God is a jealous God... God longs to reason with others/communicate. He slow to anger and thus from anger his wrath comes and are expressions of emotions in action. So yes, God has emotions. God is all knowing and since all knowing, he knows our pain and sufferings as well too. Since he, Jesus (2nd person of the divine trinity) stepped into our humanity, YHWH suffer with us knowing firsthand all about losing loved ones, pain, rejection, being abandoned, plotted against, rejected, despised, hated, mocked... etc...
No one can say to God,"Hey God not fair, you don't know what it is like to be human..."
If they tried, he would answer back, "I died in your place upon that cross for you and rose from the dead so you can too. I know all about pain, suffering, etc and etc... do you?"
John 3:16
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God is a jealous God... God longs to reason with others/communicate. He slow to anger and thus from anger his wrath comes and are expressions of emotions in action. So yes, God has emotions. God is all knowing and since all knowing, he knows our pain and sufferings as well too. Since he, Jesus (2nd person of the divine trinity) stepped into our humanity, YHWH suffer with us knowing firsthand all about losing loved ones, pain, rejection, being abandoned, plotted against, rejected, despised, hated, mocked... etc...
No one can say to God,"Hey God not fair, you don't know what it is like to be human..."
If they tried, he would answer back, "I died in your place upon that cross for you and rose from the dead so you can too. I know all about pain, suffering, etc and etc... do you?"
John 3:16
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Re: God suffers with us
God is love because He claimed Himself to be. With every thought of language that could explain His existence He chose love.
He didn't claim to know love or experience love He described Himself as love.
Jesus also reiterated His Father as Love.
God is in every describable notion.....love.
For God so loved the world...
It is His very essence.
From love stems every positive emotion..... Compassion, empathy, understanding, consideration, genoristy and kindness.
From everything we know from the bible the one thing that is without question, devoid of debate is the premise that God is Love.
It is His self proclaiming essence.
To be love.
Whilst we struggle with the forgiveness, empathy and inclusion that that existence for tells, Jesus in every single situation and parable lived the principal.
He didn't claim to know love or experience love He described Himself as love.
Jesus also reiterated His Father as Love.
God is in every describable notion.....love.
For God so loved the world...
It is His very essence.
From love stems every positive emotion..... Compassion, empathy, understanding, consideration, genoristy and kindness.
From everything we know from the bible the one thing that is without question, devoid of debate is the premise that God is Love.
It is His self proclaiming essence.
To be love.
Whilst we struggle with the forgiveness, empathy and inclusion that that existence for tells, Jesus in every single situation and parable lived the principal.
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Re: God suffers with us
Yes, I believe God suffers more-so, yet it is also different to ours.
"Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved." (Romans 10:13)