Why the person would do that?Kenny wrote:I cannot prove to your satisfaction. But hypothetically speaking; what is to prevent a person living in a materialist world from giving up their life from someone else?1over137 wrote:In our world. Prove it is materialistic.Kenny wrote:People have a long history of giving up their lives for others
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The meaning of immaterial life
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But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
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Love1over137 wrote:Why the person would do that?Kenny wrote:I cannot prove to your satisfaction. But hypothetically speaking; what is to prevent a person living in a materialist world from giving up their life from someone else?1over137 wrote:In our world. Prove it is materialistic.Kenny wrote:People have a long history of giving up their lives for others
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Re: The meaning of immaterial life
Chemical reactions.Kenny wrote:Love1over137 wrote:Why the person would do that?Kenny wrote:I cannot prove to your satisfaction. But hypothetically speaking; what is to prevent a person living in a materialist world from giving up their life from someone else?1over137 wrote:In our world. Prove it is materialistic.Kenny wrote:People have a long history of giving up their lives for others
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Apparently falling in love affects the brain just like crack doesKurieuo wrote:Chemical reactions.Kenny wrote:Love1over137 wrote:Why the person would do that?Kenny wrote:I cannot prove to your satisfaction. But hypothetically speaking; what is to prevent a person living in a materialist world from giving up their life from someone else?1over137 wrote:
In our world. Prove it is materialistic.
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No, it can't actually work that way.Nessa wrote:Apparently falling in love affects the brain just like crack doesKurieuo wrote:Chemical reactions.Kenny wrote:Love1over137 wrote:Why the person would do that?Kenny wrote: I cannot prove to your satisfaction. But hypothetically speaking; what is to prevent a person living in a materialist world from giving up their life from someone else?
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A material worldview would say that the physical chemistry creates an emotional affect where "we" feel this "falling in love". Yet, it can't work the other way around with "falling in love" affecting the brain unless one accepts mental states aren't all derived from physical states.
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But certainly not non-religious people?Kenny wrote:People will have their own reasons for labeling something sacred; it will usually vary from person to person.PaulSacramento wrote:What is the justification for life being sacred in a materialistic world view?
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I mean:
sa·cred
ˈsākrəd/Submit
adjective
connected with God (or the gods) or dedicated to a religious purpose and so deserving veneration.
"sacred rites"
synonyms: holy, hallowed, blessed, consecrated, sanctified, venerated, revered; archaicblest
"the priest entered the sacred place"
religious rather than secular.
"sacred music"
synonyms: religious, spiritual, devotional, church, ecclesiastical
"sacred music"
(of writing or text) embodying the laws or doctrines of a religion.
"a sacred Hindu text"
What is the meaning of sacred outside religion ??
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I believe sacred is like the word Holy; a term generally associated with religious belief.PaulSacramento wrote:But certainly not non-religious people?Kenny wrote:People will have their own reasons for labeling something sacred; it will usually vary from person to person.PaulSacramento wrote:What is the justification for life being sacred in a materialistic world view?
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I mean:
sa·cred
ˈsākrəd/Submit
adjective
connected with God (or the gods) or dedicated to a religious purpose and so deserving veneration.
"sacred rites"
synonyms: holy, hallowed, blessed, consecrated, sanctified, venerated, revered; archaicblest
"the priest entered the sacred place"
religious rather than secular.
"sacred music"
synonyms: religious, spiritual, devotional, church, ecclesiastical
"sacred music"
(of writing or text) embodying the laws or doctrines of a religion.
"a sacred Hindu text"
What is the meaning of sacred outside religion ??
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So how would a non-religious/non-believer use it?
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Personally I don't think a non-believer should use it; IMO its one of those terms that should be reserved for those who believe. But you know people nowadays!PaulSacramento wrote:So how would a non-religious/non-believer use it?
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I would go with you in circles Kenny.
Am leaving this conversation.
I have only one nerves.
Am leaving this conversation.
I have only one nerves.
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
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Is that a Slovak idiom?1over137 wrote:
I have only one nerves.
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
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24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
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But you agreed that life is sacred, yes?Kenny wrote:Personally I don't think a non-believer should use it; IMO its one of those terms that should be reserved for those who believe. But you know people nowadays!PaulSacramento wrote:So how would a non-religious/non-believer use it?
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It's been nice discussing with you my friend!1over137 wrote:I would go with you in circles Kenny.
Am leaving this conversation.
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I generally don't use the term "sacred" in casual conversation, but when discussing with people who do, I understand what it means to them.PaulSacramento wrote:But you agreed that life is sacred, yes?Kenny wrote:Personally I don't think a non-believer should use it; IMO its one of those terms that should be reserved for those who believe. But you know people nowadays!PaulSacramento wrote:So how would a non-religious/non-believer use it?
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Ah, understood, but do you agree? do you agree that life is sacred?Kenny wrote:I generally don't use the term "sacred" in casual conversation, but when discussing with people who do, I understand what it means to them.PaulSacramento wrote:But you agreed that life is sacred, yes?Kenny wrote:Personally I don't think a non-believer should use it; IMO its one of those terms that should be reserved for those who believe. But you know people nowadays!PaulSacramento wrote:So how would a non-religious/non-believer use it?
Ken
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