Are My Actions Determined?

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Aha! Trying to trap me with a trick question, I see!
As an evilutionist, you believe humans are primates.

You can't get me that easily!!!
LMAO !
No, nothing so subversive since I made it clear earlier that what other species do or is "natural to them", means nothing for the human species.
Sure our terms are "humancentric", we are humans making up terms for things.
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Homosexual behaviour is something different than homosexual love. Not to be mistaken for the same.
More on this tricky matter: http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150206 ... al-animals
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Justhuman wrote:Homosexual behaviour is something different than homosexual love. Not to be mistaken for the same.
More on this tricky matter: http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150206 ... al-animals
That article points our exactly what I mentioned before, the issue that it is NOT homosexual behavior that is being observed BUT bisexual one.
For some reason ( and we know what that is), these articles keep being stated as showing that homosexual activity is "natural" for some species ( irrelevant when it comes to humans) BUT what is being seen is bisexual behaviour or "sex with who available" behaviour.
Where is the documented case of EXCLUSIVE sex between two animals of the same gender ?
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RickD wrote:
PaulSacramento wrote:
RickD wrote:
PaulSacramento wrote:
Justhuman wrote:It seems that homosexuality does occur amongst domesticated sheep:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosex ... in_animals.
I can't verify that though!

The issue is determination.
When two male chimps ( since activities like this have been observed and reported) sexual stimulate each other, that is NOT homosexual activity UNLESS they exclusively do that and do NOT EVER do that with females.
IF they do "get it on" with females also it means they are, what we would define as, bisexual - they have sexual realtions with BOTH genders.
:swhat:

Not sure what you are having trouble with on this Rick...
Homosexual, and bisexual, are terms exclusive to humanity BY DEFINITION. You keep trying to get around that.
How do definitions come to be?
https://www.oxforddictionaries.com/our- ... ctionaries
https://www.merriam-webster.com/help/fa ... dictionary
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We try to rationalize the daylights out of Scripture and nature to Try to justify homosexual relationships. Animals are animals -- people are people. We have control of our actions. We Always have choices -- we might not Like the choices, but we still have them. Some day every person will answer to God for our individual actions.
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Crochet - been wonder where you've been, young lady! Missed seeing you around!
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Philip wrote:Crochet - been wonder where you've been, young lady! Missed seeing you around!
Young lady? You must have her confused with someone else.

:wave:
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.


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ou must have her confused with someone else.

:wave:
OK, young man! :roll:
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Philip wrote:
ou must have her confused with someone else.

:wave:
OK, young man! :roll:
Oh, I get it now. At your age, everybody else is considered young. :lol:
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.


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-Edward R Murrow




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