Dinos and Birds Closer then Ever?

[Believer]

To me, it looks like some shifting during rapid fossilization. Have you ever seen anomalies in things which turned out to not be true? Everything is to be tested. But in the case of evolutionists, they are quick to jump to conclusions and publish it.

[BGoodForGoodSake]

To me, it looks like some shifting during rapid fossilization. Have you ever seen anomalies in things which turned out to not be true? Everything is to be tested. But in the case of evolutionists, they are quick to jump to conclusions and publish it.

This is not the only case where this occurred, and in other organisms found in the same deposits you see the same kind of fine details, except in those cases they would be scales, eggshells, gills and other fine details.

So I doubt this is the case.

[BGoodForGoodSake]

So, the covering is feathers until a better explanation is found? What if we just show that it's not feathers without an alterative? So what, doesn't hinder our argument

We can talk about what if's all day. Please demonstrate how they are not feathers of some sort. Perhaps the dinosaur died in a pile of feathers?

[AttentionKMartShoppers]

So, the covering is feathers until a better explanation is found? What if we just show that it's not feathers without an alterative? So what, doesn't hinder our argument

We can talk about what if's all day. Please demonstrate how they are not feathers of some sort. Perhaps the dinosaur died in a pile of feathers?

WHAT feathers? My gosh....

[Believer]

To me, it looks like some shifting during rapid fossilization. Have you ever seen anomalies in things which turned out to not be true? Everything is to be tested. But in the case of evolutionists, they are quick to jump to conclusions and publish it.

This is not the only case where this occurred, and in other organisms found in the same deposits you see the same kind of fine details, except in those cases they would be scales, eggshells, gills and other fine details.

So I doubt this is the case.

So what do you think it is? Like I said I am open to suggestions.

And I GAVE a suggestion, sorry it wasn't good enough for you. Since you already know what it is, why ask this asinine question...?

[BGoodForGoodSake]

And I GAVE a suggestion, sorry it wasn't good enough for you. Since you already know what it is, why ask this asinine question...?

I replied to you with additional information.

This is not the only case where this occurred, and in other organisms found in the same deposits you see the same kind of fine details, except in those cases they would be scales, eggshells, gills and other fine details.

Why so short in temper? I am only asking questions and providing infomation.

[Believer]

And I GAVE a suggestion, sorry it wasn't good enough for you. Since you already know what it is, why ask this asinine question...?

I replied to you with additional information.

This is not the only case where this occurred, and in other organisms found in the same deposits you see the same kind of fine details, except in those cases they would be scales, eggshells, gills and other fine details.

Why so short in temper? I am only asking questions and providing infomation.

I am short in temper BECAUSE everyone is so godless here saying all came about by 100% nothing. This is a Christian forum, not an atheist forum like the old board became. I really have to wonder WHY the atheists who position themselves with evolution which is one of their beliefs, are here anyways, you guys ask of critical scientific information, we provide, you reject, it's nonsense, and if you can't be open to it, perhaps you people should move to a different forum, specifically for atheists.

[BGoodForGoodSake]

And I GAVE a suggestion, sorry it wasn't good enough for you. Since you already know what it is, why ask this asinine question...?

I replied to you with additional information.

This is not the only case where this occurred, and in other organisms found in the same deposits you see the same kind of fine details, except in those cases they would be scales, eggshells, gills and other fine details.

Why so short in temper? I am only asking questions and providing infomation.

I am short in temper BECAUSE everyone is so godless here saying all came about by 100% nothing. This is a Christian forum, not an atheist forum like the old board became. I really have to wonder WHY the atheists who position themselves with evolution which is one of their beliefs, are here anyways, you guys ask of critical scientific information, we provide, you reject, it's nonsense, and if you can't be open to it, perhaps you people should move to a different forum, specifically for atheists.

Hmm, I'm only here to provide critical scientific information, I have no agenda other than that. As for being an athiest you know I am not, and I am not here for either side.

If you look through the posts in this thread you'll see all I am doing is providing information nothing more.

I am sorry to have angered you Brian.

[Yehren]

I guess the best way to test the idea is to make a list of apomorphies for birds, and a set for dinosaurs, and then see if any are shared.

Anyone want to try? Let's take Archaeopteryx. Who wants to make a list of the number of bird characteristics, and the number of dinosaur characteristics it has?

Then we can compare and see it if qualifies.

[BGoodForGoodSake]

I guess the best way to test the idea is to make a list of apomorphies for birds, and a set for dinosaurs, and then see if any are shared.

Anyone want to try? Let's take Archaeopteryx. Who wants to make a list of the number of bird characteristics, and the number of dinosaur characteristics it has?

Then we can compare and see it if qualifies.

I don''t think that would convince many here.
But you could give it a shot.

[Yehren]

Facts are like drops of rain. They don't knock over walls, but they can wear them away, a little at a time.

The point is not to convince people, but to get them to think.

[AttentionKMartShoppers]

I guess the best way to test the idea is to make a list of apomorphies for birds, and a set for dinosaurs, and then see if any are shared.

Anyone want to try? Let's take Archaeopteryx. Who wants to make a list of the number of bird characteristics, and the number of dinosaur characteristics it has?

Then we can compare and see it if qualifies.

Circular reasoning once again. Thank you. I'm impressed.

[Yehren]

Yehren observes:
I guess the best way to test the idea is to make a list of apomorphies for birds, and a set for dinosaurs, and then see if any are shared.

Anyone want to try? Let's take Archaeopteryx. Who wants to make a list of the number of bird characteristics, and the number of dinosaur characteristics it has?

Then we can compare and see it if qualifies.

Circular reasoning once again. Thank you. I'm impressed.

Perhaps you don't know what "circular reasoning" is.

After all, if you suppose it's just a bird (or dinosaur), you might find that there are not dinosaur (or bird) features. And that would confirm your hypothesis.

On the other hand, if there a considerable number of each, it would invalidate your hypothesis.

Want to try? If you don't, I'll just list the differences and similarities myself. Let's give it a shot.

[Jbuza]

Facts are like drops of rain. They don't knock over walls, but they can wear them away, a little at a time.

The point is not to convince people, but to get them to think.

Yup, and lies are exactley the same, so your right it is good people at least think to try and sort them out.

[Yehren]

That's what discussion boards are for. People are smarter than generally thought. Toss out the claims, and let them be sorted out.