A new low has been reached...

[abelcainsbrother]

I've seen this "good guys vs NWO" trope before when I was in the new age. It's pure [nonsense], Christians should know there are no good guys here.

Have you ever read about the mark of the beast in the bible? Because it is a one world government,economy and religion. Do you think Donald Trump just ran on draining the swamp for nothing? Because I don't.

[Philip]

Abel: Have you ever read about the mark of the beast in the bible? Because it is a one world government,economy and religion. Do you think Donald Trump just ran on draining the swamp for nothing? Because I don't.

Abe, I'm not getting it - if the Bible prophesies are predicting a one-world government, then you think Trump is going to hold back whatever prophetic predictions from becoming a reality? Because however and whenever those prophesies accurately unfold, I can guarantee you that Trump nor anyone else is going to prevent events asserted by God's prophets from happening - and I'm not arguing for any certain accurate take on what will occur in the future - just that, if God says something will happen, it WILL! But you seem to think that your savior Trump will stop the march toward one-world government, Armageddon, etc? Man, that's some strong koolaid you've been drinking!

[abelcainsbrother]

Abel: Have you ever read about the mark of the beast in the bible? Because it is a one world government,economy and religion. Do you think Donald Trump just ran on draining the swamp for nothing? Because I don't.

Abe, I'm not getting it - if the Bible prophesies are predicting a one-world government, then you think Trump is going to hold back whatever prophetic predictions from becoming a reality? Because however and whenever those prophesies accurately unfold, I can guarantee you that Trump nor anyone else is going to prevent events asserted by God's prophets from happening - and I'm not arguing for any certain accurate take on what will occur in the future - just that, if God says something will happen, it WILL! But you seem to think that your savior Trump will stop the march toward one-world government, Armageddon, etc? Man, that's some strong koolaid you've been drinking!

Out of context. I'm not advocating that Trump or anybody can stop the mark of the beast system.I know noone will stop it ultimately however it is not time for the mark of the beast yet and if it is not time for it then America can free itself from the NWO until the mark of the beast comes.But I don't like this defeatest attitude amongst certian Christians that we just sit back and allow evil to thrive because we can't stop it. Many in the church seem to have this idea and I think it is a big reason for the decline of Christian influence in our society.On every political issue that is important to Christians we have been totally dominated politically and have not made any gains for atleast 40 - 50 years.The last political battle Christians won was ending slavery. And yet alot of these same Christians will complain about how evil America is now and yet it is they that refuse to fight because we can't win,etc. Biblically I can make a case that America can free itself from the NWO based on the feet mixed with iron and clay.The feet are before the ten toes on the feet and the ten toes is the mark of the beast system. So with iron and clay it really can't come together like they would like.We are still in the feet mixed with iron and clay period. I would like to see Christians get in the fight politically and actually win political battles for a change instead of always losing.We can make a difference on America but we must fight for it.

Also because we live in America we must honor and cherish the US Constitution and when we have politicians actively committing treason by abandoning it is time we stand up and put a stop to it,especially when we now have the chance to do it because of Donald Trump and what he ran on.Restoring law and order,America and the American people first,drain the swamp,etc.We should not just ignore the evil that is happening with this idea that it won't ever change,etc.

[edwardmurphy]

On every political issue that is important to Christians we have been totally dominated politically and have not made any gains for atleast 40 - 50 years.

Got some examples?

The last political battle Christians won was ending slavery.

That's revisionist history. There were Christians on both sides of that fight. When the Christian abolitionists defeat Christian slave owners it's not a win for Christianity, it's a win for abolition.

I would like to see Christians get in the fight politically and actually win political battles for a change instead of always losing.We can make a difference on America but we must fight for it.

This is true. If Christians were to stop trying to legislate morality and instead formed a unified front against poverty, inequality, and crony capitalism they might actually make a difference. Want to reduce abortion and shore up the family unit? Stop going after the symptoms and take a run at the underlying causes.[/quote]

[PaulSacramento]

Legislating morality, LOL !
That is what EVERYONE does.
Morality is about what is right and wrong and legislating it is about making what is right and wrong, legal and illegal.
And the underlying cause of unwanted pregnancy and single parent homes is lack of morals, ie: doing what is wrong - sex outside of committed relationships, leaving a mother and child, having multiple sexual partners and NOT knowing who the father is, etc, etc.

[claysmithr]

I've seen this "good guys vs NWO" trope before when I was in the new age. It's pure [nonsense], Christians should know there are no good guys here.

Have you ever read about the mark of the beast in the bible? Because it is a one world government,economy and religion. Do you think Donald Trump just ran on draining the swamp for nothing? Because I don't.

Trump IS THE SWAMP. The man has too many mob connections. He wants to be a dictator, and admires dictators. He has to pay a porn star to keep hush about his affair, and he did it illegally. His favorite bible verse is "eye for an eye." He has no need to ask God for forgiveness, he says. Here's a Trump quote

I like to be good. I don't like to have to ask for forgiveness. And I am good. I don't do a lot of things that are bad. I try to do nothing that is bad.

He is the definition of narcissist and a serial liar. His whole campaign relies on a fabrication that he is competent. He makes fun of the disabled and uses his power to bully people. He promotes racism and doesn't condemn it.

Trump just proves that if the Antichrist ran republican, conservative Christians would vote for him and call him a man of God.

My guess is that Trump has been severely emotionally and spiritually stunted by his wealth, and if his Christian voters cared for him at all, they'd recognize the bad fruit and pray fervently for his salvation and hold him accountable for his sin.

[Philip]

I think vast millions of Christians ARE appalled by much of Trump's actions, words and behavior, and I hear them denounce him all the time. But they had to make a very difficult call, given that they viewed Hillary as being FAR worse - as they well knew the track record of the Clintons. But, yes, we should denounce bad things, no matter which point on the political spectrum they come from!

[abelcainsbrother]

I think vast millions of Christians ARE appalled by much of Trump's actions, words and behavior, and I hear them denounce him all the time. But they had to make a very difficult call, given that they viewed Hillary as being FAR worse - as they well knew the track record of the Clintons. But, yes, we should denounce bad things, no matter which point on the political spectrum they come from!

They must be ignoring how much he has been attacked from the left and MSM then and must expect him to not fight back politically.But what is even more appalling is those Christians are ignoring real treason and sedition going on in our government.You know the left has called Trump and his supporters racists,homophobes,deplorables,bigots,etc which are all lies and not true and yet we have real treason and sedition going on and people are asleep and not a peep from them about it. These are real crimes being committed and these are not lies like the left has thrown at Trump and his supporters. You and me and every American must obey the law or we go to jail or prison and yet we have real treason and sedition in our government and people are asleep.It is a shame! This is not a left vs right issue this is a good vs evil problem that confronts every American regardless of party.

[abelcainsbrother]

On every political issue that is important to Christians we have been totally dominated politically and have not made any gains for atleast 40 - 50 years.

Got some examples?

The last political battle Christians won was ending slavery.

That's revisionist history. There were Christians on both sides of that fight. When the Christian abolitionists defeat Christian slave owners it's not a win for Christianity, it's a win for abolition.

I would like to see Christians get in the fight politically and actually win political battles for a change instead of always losing.We can make a difference on America but we must fight for it.

This is true. If Christians were to stop trying to legislate morality and instead formed a unified front against poverty, inequality, and crony capitalism they might actually make a difference. Want to reduce abortion and shore up the family unit? Stop going after the symptoms and take a run at the underlying causes.

[/quote]

I hope you're not trying to convince us Democrat policies work because we know they don't.As a matter of fact neither the Republican or Democrat policies work and we have proof.You liberals got everything you wanted politically while the Republicans allowed it so they are just as much to blame as liberals and America only suffered and it has been rejected by the American people.

Also Christians have never tried or wanted to legislate morality so you're accusation is baseless,like fighting imaginary boogie men. Christians have only been appalled at liberal judges legislating from the bench forcing America to accept things that they have no authority to do according to the Constitution.We were forced to accept abortion,forced to accept same sex marriages,forced to accept people not knowing what bathroom to use,forcing us to make accomodations when they have abslutely no authority to decide these things for the American people.

It is supposed to be the people deciding these issues,NOT the government. This has been the whole problem the US Constitution being ignored and the American people being forced against its will to accept things many find immoral.Whether you agree or not it is immoral or not these things were forced onto to the American people. So you're accusing Christians of what you and your party did legislate morality while ignoring the US Constitution. These are States rights issues for the people to decide,NOT the government. They have gotten away with it for so long that you now think it is normal,but it is'nt.

[abelcainsbrother]

I've seen this "good guys vs NWO" trope before when I was in the new age. It's pure [nonsense], Christians should know there are no good guys here.

Have you ever read about the mark of the beast in the bible? Because it is a one world government,economy and religion. Do you think Donald Trump just ran on draining the swamp for nothing? Because I don't.

Trump IS THE SWAMP. The man has too many mob connections. He wants to be a dictator, and admires dictators. He has to pay a porn star to keep hush about his affair, and he did it illegally. His favorite bible verse is "eye for an eye." He has no need to ask God for forgiveness, he says. Here's a Trump quote

I like to be good. I don't like to have to ask for forgiveness. And I am good. I don't do a lot of things that are bad. I try to do nothing that is bad.

He is the definition of narcissist and a serial liar. His whole campaign relies on a fabrication that he is competent. He makes fun of the disabled and uses his power to bully people. He promotes racism and doesn't condemn it.

Trump just proves that if the Antichrist ran republican, conservative Christians would vote for him and call him a man of God.

My guess is that Trump has been severely emotionally and spiritually stunted by his wealth, and if his Christian voters cared for him at all, they'd recognize the bad fruit and pray fervently for his salvation and hold him accountable for his sin.

If Trump is the swamp then why is he draining the swamp? It was Obama that was worshipped as a god,not Trump.The Christians that support Trump all talk about how they pray for Trump's safety because of the things he is trying to do for America.As a matter of fact I keep up with Q in order to know what is really going on that you're not going to know relying on the MSM and when these people go over Q posts to decipher them they start by praying first and nobody is offended,etc by it.Now not every Q follower is a Christian but those that are pray before they start.Q has acknowleded it too and has encouraged it too.These are dangerous tmes we live in because Trump is in grave danger because of what he stands for draining the swamp. So Christians that support Trump are always talking about how they pray for him.Trump cannot be the anti-christ based on the fact that there is no jewish temple in Israel and the jews sacrificing animals in it. You judge Donald Trump's salvation eventhough he has said he is a Christian and yet he is real,he is not fake like every Us President we have had that proudly talked about their faith in Christ and yet it has not benefitted America at all because on every issue important to Christians they were totally dominated politically. I've seen no benefit from former Presidents and politicians that openly talked about their faith in Christ,etc even running as pro-life because of it and yet America benefitted nothing. So they were the fake ones.Donald Trump is real,he is not faking it like they were.It is what Donald Trump stands for that people like him so much things like putting America and the American people first which is so controversial today which shows how messed up and corrupt we've became. God chose Donald Trump for this time.

[Thunderbolt47]

Well, I don't see many people being drained out since Trump arrived in power... And there's something with him that's bothering me, the fact that this has happened since he took office ; the fact that while everything seems to show that he hasn't had any relation with Russia, measures were taken to make it very interesting fiscality-wise for Russians to buy real estate in the USA. I know that I'm myself living in Russia and shouldn't complain, but it's still strange.

[abelcainsbrother]

Well, I don't see many people being drained out since Trump arrived in power... And there's something with him that's bothering me, the fact that this has happened since he took office ; the fact that while everything seems to show that he hasn't had any relation with Russia, measures were taken to make it very interesting fiscality-wise for Russians to buy real estate in the USA. I know that I'm myself living in Russia and shouldn't complain, but it's still strange.

You have'nt heard of a bunch of CEO's resigning and several Congressmen have made it clear that they are not running again? Also there have been a bunch of judges replaced kinda underneath the radar.plus there are 50,000 plus sealed indictments that have yet to be opened.But Trump and those working with him give people a chance to come clean about the treason.They even use it as leverage to get people to cooperate.As Q says "They have it all" ,Have you noticed a change in Lindsey Graham?You see in order to drain the swamp they've had to replace corrupt judges that would juust let them get away with it. Alot has been done to drain the swamp but alot of people are not aware of it.Now Trump and those working to help drain the swamp have had to do things as a set up for when the swamp can ultimately be drained.I'll admit it has not fully been drained yet but it is coming and when the time is ready everything will be in place so that justice can proceed. I had'nt heard of the link you posted but plans are in place to move America away from the fed which will solve so much and cut off off-shore banks.Trump signed an executive order that freezes the fanancial transactions of corruption and child trafficking and I believe ultimately this money will be used to pay off America's debt. Those of us who follow Q have sounded like conspiracy theorists when we bring up pedophile rings and how politicians are set up and then blackmailed to go along with the Deep State agenda,but Trump's executive order is evidence we are right.

[claysmithr]

I've seen this "good guys vs NWO" trope before when I was in the new age. It's pure [nonsense], Christians should know there are no good guys here.

Have you ever read about the mark of the beast in the bible? Because it is a one world government,economy and religion. Do you think Donald Trump just ran on draining the swamp for nothing? Because I don't.

Trump IS THE SWAMP. The man has too many mob connections. He wants to be a dictator, and admires dictators. He has to pay a porn star to keep hush about his affair, and he did it illegally. His favorite bible verse is "eye for an eye." He has no need to ask God for forgiveness, he says. Here's a Trump quote

I like to be good. I don't like to have to ask for forgiveness. And I am good. I don't do a lot of things that are bad. I try to do nothing that is bad.

He is the definition of narcissist and a serial liar. His whole campaign relies on a fabrication that he is competent. He makes fun of the disabled and uses his power to bully people. He promotes racism and doesn't condemn it.

Trump just proves that if the Antichrist ran republican, conservative Christians would vote for him and call him a man of God.

My guess is that Trump has been severely emotionally and spiritually stunted by his wealth, and if his Christian voters cared for him at all, they'd recognize the bad fruit and pray fervently for his salvation and hold him accountable for his sin.

If Trump is the swamp then why is he draining the swamp? It was Obama that was worshipped as a god,not Trump.The Christians that support Trump all talk about how they pray for Trump's safety because of the things he is trying to do for America.As a matter of fact I keep up with Q in order to know what is really going on that you're not going to know relying on the MSM and when these people go over Q posts to decipher them they start by praying first and nobody is offended,etc by it.Now not every Q follower is a Christian but those that are pray before they start.Q has acknowleded it too and has encouraged it too.These are dangerous tmes we live in because Trump is in grave danger because of what he stands for draining the swamp. So Christians that support Trump are always talking about how they pray for him.Trump cannot be the anti-christ based on the fact that there is no jewish temple in Israel and the jews sacrificing animals in it. You judge Donald Trump's salvation eventhough he has said he is a Christian and yet he is real,he is not fake like every Us President we have had that proudly talked about their faith in Christ and yet it has not benefitted America at all because on every issue important to Christians they were totally dominated politically. I've seen no benefit from former Presidents and politicians that openly talked about their faith in Christ,etc even running as pro-life because of it and yet America benefitted nothing. So they were the fake ones.Donald Trump is real,he is not faking it like they were.It is what Donald Trump stands for that people like him so much things like putting America and the American people first which is so controversial today which shows how messed up and corrupt we've became. God chose Donald Trump for this time.

Q is obvious disinfo (similar to what I dealt with in the new age), not surprisingly making you ill-informed.

So tell me, how exactly has Trump drained the swamp? Also, I never claimed he was the Antrichrist, I suspect the actual Antichrist will be European. God also choose Obama and Pharaoh.

I do like the idea of American first, we'll see how his execution plays out.

[abelcainsbrother]

I've seen this "good guys vs NWO" trope before when I was in the new age. It's pure [nonsense], Christians should know there are no good guys here.

Have you ever read about the mark of the beast in the bible? Because it is a one world government,economy and religion. Do you think Donald Trump just ran on draining the swamp for nothing? Because I don't.

Trump IS THE SWAMP. The man has too many mob connections. He wants to be a dictator, and admires dictators. He has to pay a porn star to keep hush about his affair, and he did it illegally. His favorite bible verse is "eye for an eye." He has no need to ask God for forgiveness, he says. Here's a Trump quote

I like to be good. I don't like to have to ask for forgiveness. And I am good. I don't do a lot of things that are bad. I try to do nothing that is bad.

He is the definition of narcissist and a serial liar. His whole campaign relies on a fabrication that he is competent. He makes fun of the disabled and uses his power to bully people. He promotes racism and doesn't condemn it.

Trump just proves that if the Antichrist ran republican, conservative Christians would vote for him and call him a man of God.

My guess is that Trump has been severely emotionally and spiritually stunted by his wealth, and if his Christian voters cared for him at all, they'd recognize the bad fruit and pray fervently for his salvation and hold him accountable for his sin.

If Trump is the swamp then why is he draining the swamp? It was Obama that was worshipped as a god,not Trump.The Christians that support Trump all talk about how they pray for Trump's safety because of the things he is trying to do for America.As a matter of fact I keep up with Q in order to know what is really going on that you're not going to know relying on the MSM and when these people go over Q posts to decipher them they start by praying first and nobody is offended,etc by it.Now not every Q follower is a Christian but those that are pray before they start.Q has acknowleded it too and has encouraged it too.These are dangerous tmes we live in because Trump is in grave danger because of what he stands for draining the swamp. So Christians that support Trump are always talking about how they pray for him.Trump cannot be the anti-christ based on the fact that there is no jewish temple in Israel and the jews sacrificing animals in it. You judge Donald Trump's salvation eventhough he has said he is a Christian and yet he is real,he is not fake like every Us President we have had that proudly talked about their faith in Christ and yet it has not benefitted America at all because on every issue important to Christians they were totally dominated politically. I've seen no benefit from former Presidents and politicians that openly talked about their faith in Christ,etc even running as pro-life because of it and yet America benefitted nothing. So they were the fake ones.Donald Trump is real,he is not faking it like they were.It is what Donald Trump stands for that people like him so much things like putting America and the American people first which is so controversial today which shows how messed up and corrupt we've became. God chose Donald Trump for this time.

Q is obvious disinfo (similar to what I dealt with in the new age), not surprisingly making you ill-informed.

So tell me, how exactly has Trump drained the swamp? Also, I never claimed he was the Antrichrist, I suspect the actual Antichrist will be European. God also choose Obama and Pharaoh.

I do like the idea of American first, we'll see how his execution plays out.

If there is really no Q team then the swamp cannot be drained.I'm not going to try to convince you of Q but I have paid attention enough to know it is legit.But if you have not bought into it by now after all of this time he has been posting you may not accept it,atleast yet. I just explained in the former post how the swamp has been drained so far and how it is going to be drained. If you had been following Q you would know. Q has answered those Trump supporters who claim like you do claiming nothing has been done to drain the swamp.Q even has Q and A sessions where he is asked questions and he answers them. Alot has been done and alot has been done so that when the time is right justice can prevail. There was a plan in place before Donald Trump even ran to drain the swamp as that plan has been implemented since Trump won and it is right on schedule.It takes time to do these things legally backed by evidence in a court of law and it is not just Donald Trump but the Q team in the background gathering evidence,etc helping in this effort to drain the swamp. Trump is not a fascist dictator and he cannot just go in gung ho without a plan to drain the swamp. These things must be done the right way politically and legally and it will be.It is about to start once Trump declassifies the FISA abuse stuff that is going to prove there were Federal crimes committed by many in the Obama administration.

I'll see if I can find it where Q has answered those who claim nothing has been done to drain the swamp.Imagine that Q is apart of military intelligence and they have been legally spying on the traitors in our government gathering evidence in order to bring them to justice military tribunal style and they have all of the evidence to do it legally where you know these were traitors to the US constitution. As a matter of fact,because of Q, I'm convinced the swamp will be drained even if they were able to assassinate President Trump.As Q says "There is no escape" and "We have it all".I believe it.

[B. W.]

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