Discussion about scientific issues as they relate to God and Christianity including archaeology, origins of life, the universe, intelligent design, evolution, etc.
The researchers could not find any one gene linked with same-sex sexual behavior. Five genetic variants did appear significantly linked to sexual orientation, and thousands more also seemed involved to a lesser extent.
In the end, the scientists could not find any genetic patterns that could be used, in any way, to identify a person's sexual orientation. Instead, the predisposition to same-sex sexual behavior appeared influenced by a complex mix of genetic and environmental influences. That's also the case for many other human traits, such as height.
Ultimately, we have all inherited a sin nature that is part of human DNA - meanining we each have sinful things that we are naturally attracted to, but that we CAN and should resist. And the degree of that resistance will be far more successful when we are submitted and committed to the Lord and dependent and prayerful upon Him in our struggles. Left to my inner desires, monogamy wouldn't be a certainty - along with many other temptations.
I can confirm that there IS such a thing as "gay gene".
I went to school with a guy named Eugene, who was gay.
We called him "Gay Gene".
John 5:24 24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
Whether lust is encouraged by humans or demonically inspired, ultimately, a human has the ability to resist the temptations - particularly with God's power!
Whether homosexuality is nature or nurture, one thing is very clear: it isn't a choice. At no point does a homosexual person say "I think I'll start being attracted to members of the same biological sex now". Treating homosexuality as though its a moral choice in the same way as stealing or something like that is a completely false comparison. Homosexual attraction in a person is more akin to something like being left handed. There isn't any particular gene for left handedness, its a bunch of environmental factors working together.
I am committed to belief in God, as the most morally demanding, psychologically enriching, intellectually satisfying and imaginatively fruitful hypothesis about the ultimate nature of reality known to me - Keith Ward
Seraph wrote:
Treating homosexuality as though its a moral choice in the same way as stealing or something like that is a completely false comparison.
Where it becomes a valid comparison, is when one commits homosexual acts.
John 5:24 24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
Seraph wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:29 pm
Whether homosexuality is nature or nurture, one thing is very clear: it isn't a choice. At no point does a homosexual person say "I think I'll start being attracted to members of the same biological sex now". Treating homosexuality as though its a moral choice in the same way as stealing or something like that is a completely false comparison. Homosexual attraction in a person is more akin to something like being left handed. There isn't any particular gene for left handedness, its a bunch of environmental factors working together.
You may be confusing being a homosexual with engaging in homosexual acts.
From the perspective of sin, being Gay is not a sin BUT engaging in homosexual activity is.
From the scientific point of view:
There is NO genetic evidence for a person being born gay, it SEEMS to be a combination of various genetic factors AND the environment ( nature AND nurture).
Engaging in homosexuality IS a moral choice, as is engaging in any sexual activity.
Keeping in line with my earlier comparison, that is essentially the same as saying "it is not depraved to be left handed, only to write with your left hand".
I am committed to belief in God, as the most morally demanding, psychologically enriching, intellectually satisfying and imaginatively fruitful hypothesis about the ultimate nature of reality known to me - Keith Ward
Seraph wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:52 pm
Keeping in line with my earlier comparison, that is essentially the same as saying "it is not depraved to be left handed, only to write with your left hand".
I'd love to hear the rationale behind that!
John 5:24 24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
