Convinced yet?

[Stu]

Bwahahahaha.... ah nice to have a good laugh every now and then
You really are the brainwashed little progressive.

Oh no, a loudmouthed foreigner who gets his news from alt-right blogs and doesn't know a thing about my country thinks I'm brainwashed! I'd better rethink my whole worldview...

With comments like this:

the Democrats are the party of law and order

Yes, you are clearly, if not brainwashed, wholly bias towards the Democrats which has lead to your impaired judgement on anything they do. Again thanks for the laugh.

Well amongst others I use Sky News, Aljazeera, CNN (yes I watch it for as long as I can stand it) and RT are alt-right blogs I guess I'm doing it wrong

Where do you get your news from?

[Byblos]

The tide is shifting on impeachment so it looks like the spineless democrats will pivot to censure instead of impeachment. They know well what will happen with a full-fledged trial in the senate.

[Philip]

Byblos: The tide is shifting on impeachment so it looks like the spineless democrats will pivot to censure instead of impeachment. They know well what will happen with a full-fledged trial in the senate.

And if the Democrats do pivot / fail to impeach, their uber-liberal / progressive / socialist "true believers are going to absolutely go into meltdown!

[Byblos]

Byblos: The tide is shifting on impeachment so it looks like the spineless democrats will pivot to censure instead of impeachment. They know well what will happen with a full-fledged trial in the senate.

And if the Democrats do pivot / fail to impeach, their uber-liberal / progressive / socialist "true believers are going to absolutely go into meltdown!

Which is why I've said from the beginning this is going to be a lose-lose for the no-good do-nothin' dems. They've dug themselves so deep that some truly think Bloomberg will be their savior whereas he will prove to be the final nail in their coffin. He will split the democratic vote like taking an ax to a rotting trunk. 2020 is going to be a lot of fun.

[RickD]

Egg McMuffin 2020.

[Philip]

Byblos: They've dug themselves so deep that some truly think Bloomberg will be their savior whereas he will prove to be the final nail in their coffin. He will split the democratic vote like taking an ax to a rotting trunk.

Well, the very fact that Bloomberg is running at all shows they are in big trouble. Guy like him has researched and polled enough to wade into the race, obviously thinking none of the Democrats are likely to win. But I'll have to (strangely) agree with Bernie - we don't need no more Billionaires going into politics.

[Stu]

Byblos: They've dug themselves so deep that some truly think Bloomberg will be their savior whereas he will prove to be the final nail in their coffin. He will split the democratic vote like taking an ax to a rotting trunk.

Well, the very fact that Bloomberg is running at all shows they are in big trouble. Guy like him has researched and polled enough to wade into the race, obviously thinking none of the Democrats are likely to win. But I'll have to (strangely) agree with Bernie - we don't need no more Billionaires going into politics.

Was watching CNN the other day (yes I watch it now and again just out of curiosity) and Bloomberg polled waaaaaay down, like 3% or something ridiculous.

Now I'm not sure if it was a CNN poll (I can't believe people still take those seriously when it comes to Trump issues) or someone else's but that is pretty poor either way. If it's to be believed Bloomberg is gonna get hammered.

[Philip]

Most billionaires are used to their comfy lives and no one criticizing them, having everyone do their bidding. I doubt he's willing to do debates and especially barnstorm all over the country in rallies, etc. Trump loved campaigning - most don't. One doesn't get the presidency unless they put all they have into winning it; takes a lot of time and effort.

[abelcainsbrother]

Donald Trump trapped the Democrats by seeking foreign assistance in a domestic election and by using the power of his office for his personal political advantage. They had to impeach because HE DID IT, and then he engaged in yet another flagrantly obvious cover up. The simple fact is that, at this moment in the history of the nation, the Democrats are the party of law and order and the Republicans are the party of corrupt cronyism Trump. It hasn't always been that way, and in time it'll likely change, but that's the reality of the moment.

I bet you did not know that in 1999 President Bill Clinton signed a treaty between the US and Ukraine in helping each other investigate and combat corruption.So President Trump is just following the legal treaty Clinton signed into law getting to the bottom of corruption, and he did not extort Ukraine. And once the Senate trial begins the evidence of corruption is going to be exposed for everybody to see. The American people will be thanking Trump for exposing corruption involving politicians with Ukraine that the MSM tried to cover up and protect.The whole world will be watching the Senate trial. Yes Trump set a trap.The Democrats and the MSM are not in control like you think,Trump and his team are. They led the Democrats into this trap because Trump wins no matter if they don't impeach him or if they do.Trump wins either way and just like I said before Donald Trump was even elected corruption is going to be exposed for everybody to see.I've been telling you for awhile now that everyday that goes by Trump and his team are gaining more and more power over the Deep State and it is true.It is getting harder and harder for their shenanigans to work like they used to. Once the American people are informed they will be demanding justice just like we are and will be all for draining the swamp in Washington DC.I would'nt be surprised if even you are finally awakened to the corruption in Washington DC.Once atleast 70% of the American people are demanding justice and we are no longer a country divided 50-50 which means we're weak and these corrupt people are safe,but when we unite in one strong voice for justice we will have it.The American people will demand it and we will no longer be weak,divided 50-50 like we have been by design to keep them safe.Those wedge issues they have used to divide us The American people will no longer matter. Treason and Sedition are real Federal crimes. Keep this in mind as we enjoy the show.

[Byblos]

Donald Trump trapped the Democrats by seeking foreign assistance in a domestic election and by using the power of his office for his personal political advantage. They had to impeach because HE DID IT, and then he engaged in yet another flagrantly obvious cover up. The simple fact is that, at this moment in the history of the nation, the Democrats are the party of law and order and the Republicans are the party of corrupt cronyism Trump. It hasn't always been that way, and in time it'll likely change, but that's the reality of the moment.

I bet you did not know that in 1999 President Bill Clinton signed a treaty between the US and Ukraine in helping each other investigate and combat corruption.So President Trump is just following the legal treaty Clinton signed into law getting to the bottom of corruption, and he did not extort Ukraine. And once the Senate trial begins the evidence of corruption is going to be exposed for everybody to see. The American people will be thanking Trump for exposing corruption involving politicians with Ukraine that the MSM tried to cover up and protect.The whole world will be watching the Senate trial. Yes Trump set a trap.The Democrats and the MSM are not in control like you think,Trump and his team are. They led the Democrats into this trap because Trump wins no matter if they don't impeach him or if they do.Trump wins either way and just like I said before Donald Trump was even elected corruption is going to be exposed for everybody to see.I've been telling you for awhile now that everyday that goes by Trump and his team are gaining more and more power over the Deep State and it is true.It is getting harder and harder for their shenanigans to work like they used to. Once the American people are informed they will be demanding justice just like we are and will be all for draining the swamp in Washington DC.I would'nt be surprised if even you are finally awakened to the corruption in Washington DC.Once atleast 70% of the American people are demanding justice and we are no longer a country divided 50-50 which means we're weak and these corrupt people are safe,but when we unite in one strong voice for justice we will have it.The American people will demand it and we will no longer be weak,divided 50-50 like we have been by design to keep them safe.Those wedge issues they have used to divide us The American people will no longer matter. Treason and Sedition are real Federal crimes. Keep this in mind as we enjoy the show.

Is it just me or does anyone else also think Ed and ACB are actually one person with split personalities a la Jekyll and Hyde disorder.?

I mean seriously, just read the above with that in mind and tell me you don't think it's at least possible? Rick please check their IP addresses.

[RickD]

Donald Trump trapped the Democrats by seeking foreign assistance in a domestic election and by using the power of his office for his personal political advantage. They had to impeach because HE DID IT, and then he engaged in yet another flagrantly obvious cover up. The simple fact is that, at this moment in the history of the nation, the Democrats are the party of law and order and the Republicans are the party of corrupt cronyism Trump. It hasn't always been that way, and in time it'll likely change, but that's the reality of the moment.

I bet you did not know that in 1999 President Bill Clinton signed a treaty between the US and Ukraine in helping each other investigate and combat corruption.So President Trump is just following the legal treaty Clinton signed into law getting to the bottom of corruption, and he did not extort Ukraine. And once the Senate trial begins the evidence of corruption is going to be exposed for everybody to see. The American people will be thanking Trump for exposing corruption involving politicians with Ukraine that the MSM tried to cover up and protect.The whole world will be watching the Senate trial. Yes Trump set a trap.The Democrats and the MSM are not in control like you think,Trump and his team are. They led the Democrats into this trap because Trump wins no matter if they don't impeach him or if they do.Trump wins either way and just like I said before Donald Trump was even elected corruption is going to be exposed for everybody to see.I've been telling you for awhile now that everyday that goes by Trump and his team are gaining more and more power over the Deep State and it is true.It is getting harder and harder for their shenanigans to work like they used to. Once the American people are informed they will be demanding justice just like we are and will be all for draining the swamp in Washington DC.I would'nt be surprised if even you are finally awakened to the corruption in Washington DC.Once atleast 70% of the American people are demanding justice and we are no longer a country divided 50-50 which means we're weak and these corrupt people are safe,but when we unite in one strong voice for justice we will have it.The American people will demand it and we will no longer be weak,divided 50-50 like we have been by design to keep them safe.Those wedge issues they have used to divide us The American people will no longer matter. Treason and Sedition are real Federal crimes. Keep this in mind as we enjoy the show.

Is it just me or does anyone else also think Ed and ACB are actually one person with split personalities a la Jekyll and Hyde disorder.?

I mean seriously, just read the above with that in mind and tell me you don't think it's at least possible? Rick please check their IP addresses.

I already checked their IP addresses. While they do have different IP addresses, in different states, I still haven't ruled out the same person/split personality theory. From my research, split personality disorder may actually be under the umbrella of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

[Byblos]

So to answer the question for the last time: Convinced yet? The answer is a resounding YES. I am totally convinced the no-good dems have absolutely lost their minds. Two articles of impeachment and on what exactly? Nothing on quid pro quo. nothing on bribery, nothing on high crimes and misdemeanors (at least anything provable). An article on abuse of power and another on obstruction of congress. In other words, the only two articles they could muster which require no proof whatsoever, only subjective interpretations.

Let the elections begin.

Post Edit:
In the meantime, the dems' front runner, Joe Biden, claims he didn't know of the potential conflict of interest and appearance of impropriety between his official capacity as VP on Ukraine and his pressuring the Urkranians to fire the prosecutor investigating Burisma and other corrupt companies on one hand, and his son's position in Burisma on the other. Biden says someone should have warned him and he blames his staff. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden- ... e-conflict

Now this is a man who has been in politics for decades, 8 years of which as VP during which time he had regular briefings on intelligence matters and a full-time chief-of-staff whose purpose among other things is to advice him on potential conflicts of interest and appearances of impropriety.

In other words, either Biden knew of the potential conflict and ignored it, in which case both he and Obama are guilty of abuse of power, or he really didn't know and clearly should have known but is so incompetent that he has no business running for public office ever again.

But that's just me.

[edwardmurphy]

Nothing on quid pro quo. nothing on bribery, nothing on high crimes and misdemeanors (at least anything provable). An article on abuse of power and another on obstruction of congress. In other words, the only two articles they could muster which require no proof whatsoever, only subjective interpretations.

Spoken like a guy who didn't read the Articles of Impeachment.

They're arguing, extremely convincingly, that the bribe/extortion/quid pro quo - it could be reasonably interpreted as any or all of those things - constituted an abuse of Presidential power, which is a high crime. They're also arguing that Trump's ongoing attempted cover-up constitutes obstruction of Congress, which is another high crime.

Plus you're nitpicking.

In other words, either Biden knew of the potential conflict and ignored it, in which case both he and Obama are guilty of abuse of power, or he really didn't know and clearly should have known but is so incompetent that he has no business running for public office ever again.

But that's just me.

Correct. That's just you.

Remember, with Hunter Biden the accusation is that his decision to take that job had the potential to create the appearance of impropriety. Last I looked potentially creating the appearance of impropriety was a political misstep, not a criminal charge. Hunter Biden made a dumb decision, most likely because he's an unstable dunce with a drug problem. Oh well. There's no evidence whatsoever that H. Biden committed a crime or that J. Biden had anything to do with any of it.

Trying to spin that into Barack Obama and Joe Biden being guilty of an abuse of power is BW-level outlandish duncecappery.

P.S. - it's hysterical that you insist that the entire Russia and Ukraine scandals - both of which are supported by reams of evidence and hundreds of hours of sworn testimony, and both of which uncovered clear evidence of abuses of power by the President - are completely insignificant while simultaneously insisting that when Hunter Biden trades on daddy's name in a way that has the potential to create the appearance of impropriety it's an earth shatteringly, monumentally, gigantically, huge deal. Just wow.

I'm trying to imagine your reaction if I were to tell you that Trump is unfit for office because his behavior has the potential to create the appearance of impropriety. TDS indeed...

[Byblos]

Nothing on quid pro quo. nothing on bribery, nothing on high crimes and misdemeanors (at least anything provable). An article on abuse of power and another on obstruction of congress. In other words, the only two articles they could muster which require no proof whatsoever, only subjective interpretations.

Spoken like a guy who didn't read the Articles of Impeachment.

They're arguing, extremely convincingly, that the bribe/extortion/quid pro quo - it could be reasonably interpreted as any or all of those things - constituted an abuse of Presidential power, which is a high crime. They're also arguing that Trump's ongoing attempted cover-up constitutes obstruction of Congress, which is another high crime.

Extremely convincingly is evidently in the eye of the beholder. Considering there is not a shred of evidence and the entire case rests on assumptions, presumptions, and personal opinions, what is convincing you is your extreme bias, nothing more.

Plus you're nitpicking.

When the attempt, however feeble, is to overthrow a duly elected President, you better believe I will pick nits all day long.

In other words, either Biden knew of the potential conflict and ignored it, in which case both he and Obama are guilty of abuse of power, or he really didn't know and clearly should have known but is so incompetent that he has no business running for public office ever again.

But that's just me.

Correct. That's just you.

Well, just me, 62 million voters, the electoral college, and the constitution. I like my odds.

Remember, with Hunter Biden the accusation is that his decision to take that job had the potential to create the appearance of impropriety. Last I looked potentially creating the appearance of impropriety was a political misstep, not a criminal charge. Hunter Biden made a dumb decision, most likely because he's an unstable dunce with a drug problem. Oh well. There's no evidence whatsoever that H. Biden committed a crime or that J. Biden had anything to do with any of it.

It is rather sad you can't even bring yourself to acknowledge that Joe Biden, as the VP, should have known there was potential conflict. That tells me all I need to know about your blind allegiance.

Trying to spin that into Barack Obama and Joe Biden being guilty of an abuse of power is BW-level outlandish duncecappery.

P.S. - it's hysterical that you insist that the entire Russia and Ukraine scandals - both of which are supported by reams of evidence and hundreds of hours of sworn testimony, and both of which uncovered clear evidence of abuses of power by the President - are completely insignificant while simultaneously insisting that when Hunter Biden trades on daddy's name in a way that has the potential to create the appearance of impropriety it's an earth shatteringly, monumentally, gigantically, huge deal. Just wow.

I never once claimed Russia interference is not a big deal, only that Trump had nothing to do with it, unlike you and all your cronies. If it weren't sad it would be hysetrical you and your cronies' absolute denial that Ukraine, same as Russia, had anything to do with the 2016 elections. Is that perhaps because they were working against Trump and FOR Hillary that's clouding your judgment? Just a thought.

I'm trying to imagine your reaction if I were to tell you that Trump is unfit for office because his behavior has the potential to create the appearance of impropriety.

Lol, you've been doing that every since 2016 and look, my reaction is still the same.

TDS indeed...

Indeed indeed.