Math Proves God?

[BGoodForGoodSake]

I'm asking you. How did they form? The chemicals present during Earth's atmosphere gives you no (or, to make sure I don't leave myself open, possibly one or two...) amino acids.

Well if you don't know, then how can you know the probabilities?

[sandy_mcd]

Well if you don't know, then how can you know the probabilities?

Come on, BGood, I hope you get a clue for Christmas. The mathematics of probability are well understood. Let me give you an example. There are 9 horses in a race. What are the odds that a specified horse will win ? 1 in 9 or 0.11111. Isn't it obvious how math can be used to solve problems ?

[AttentionKMartShoppers]

I'm asking you. How did they form? The chemicals present during Earth's atmosphere gives you no (or, to make sure I don't leave myself open, possibly one or two...) amino acids.

Well if you don't know, then how can you know the probabilities?

I'm not talking probability. I'm saying the chemicals did not exist in early atmosphere to make amino acids. It's like having a nuclear warhead without uranium/plutonium in it-the probability that there will be a nuclear explosion is zero-because the ingredients don't exist for there to be one

[BGoodForGoodSake]

Well if you don't know, then how can you know the probabilities?

Come on, BGood, I hope you get a clue for Christmas. The mathematics of probability are well understood. Let me give you an example. There are 9 horses in a race. What are the odds that a specified horse will win ? 1 in 9 or 0.11111. Isn't it obvious how math can be used to solve problems ?

Yes but what if we don't know which race in which country and how many horses are in the race.

Its not a simple horse race we are calculating here.

A better analogy, given all the Hay in the world whats are the odds that a specific peice of hay will be eaten by an unknown horse at an unknown race I will be viewing on a unknown date.

There are too many variables and the probabilities for any event becomes very small.

[BGoodForGoodSake]

I'm asking you. How did they form? The chemicals present during Earth's atmosphere gives you no (or, to make sure I don't leave myself open, possibly one or two...) amino acids.

Well if you don't know, then how can you know the probabilities?

I'm not talking probability. I'm saying the chemicals did not exist in early atmosphere to make amino acids. It's like having a nuclear warhead without uranium/plutonium in it-the probability that there will be a nuclear explosion is zero-because the ingredients don't exist for there to be one

But how can you tell me that these chemicals did not exist if you don't even know how they formed? Are you certain they did not exist?

I don't think so.

[AttentionKMartShoppers]

But how can you tell me that these chemicals did not exist if you don't even know how they formed? Are you certain they did not exist?

My word...a glaring non sequitor and nonsense...lol

[BGoodForGoodSake]

But how can you tell me that these chemicals did not exist if you don't even know how they formed? Are you certain they did not exist?

My word...a glaring non sequitor and nonsense...lol

Just answer the question.
You responded to a critique of the article, it's not a non-sequitor.

I am questioning our body of knowledge and thus our abilities to calculate any sort of probabilities.

One major problem I see with the article is it is saying that the chances of a DNA sequence to correctly encode for a functioning protein are very small. The problem with this is that if I mixed nucleic acids in a vial and shake them around the chances of some of the chains encoding for a protein becomes almost 100%. Its like a quantum computer, all the solutions resolve at once and nature sorts out the ones which work.

[AttentionKMartShoppers]

I no longer know what you're talking about. I responded to that statement already.

[Forge]

Math can show you are insane. Watch the movie Pi.