The apostolic symbol of Matthew is three money bags to remind us that he
was a tax collector before Jesus called him.
You gave me a lot to answer PL , but I will try to explain myself on some.
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The governments of the world already do redistribute wealth its a matter of extent of.
I know bluesman. I'm saying that it is wrong and unbiblical.
I will prove to you its right and biblical for government to take care of its poor. Remember too that today we live in a global world.
and also to some welfare people who refuse to work.
I wrote the above, but let me make it clear that I fully support welfare.
I have had relatives that needed to collect welfare and it wasn't because they didn't want to work. Most on welfare want to work.
hat's right Mike. The money is GM's money. They earned it. WHen the government lets them keep more of their money, it allows GM to hire more workers, pay bigger salaries, build more factories (more jobs), make more cars, which in turn lowers the price of cars. Everyone benefits from the "rich" getting "tax breaks".
First all tax money goes to one coffer, If GM pays less I have to pay more or have services cut or increase debt. Either way I pay more.
GM and Ford just layed off thousands despite tax breaks. Why?
Loss of market share thats why. Lower prices are caused by companies fighting for market share. Higher wages are from labour shortage and from
Unions. Yes, that right Unions!! Why are tax breaks given? To attract or keep companies to a certain area and sometimes under threat of moving jobs elsewhere. I am at least glad that in Canada almost all can read which attracts some companies.
Woa! the trickle down theory of economics! I was hoping that died with Ronald Reagan. The man who thought deficits don't matter.
but the reality is that it is the poor who suffer and the middle class who will ultimately pay the price (fewer jobs, lower pay, higher prices, etc.)
Yeah I agree with the reality. Its only because of the global nature of business. The fact that multinational companies can just move jobs to where profit margins are better, regardless of human costs.
Moved to where labour works for peanuts, environmental laws are a laugh, and where corrupt governments will easy their way for kick backs.
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Yes, the government should and it does. It doesn't normally take property and land just money. Yeah I am aware of certain government and land reforms. Should it make everyone equal in wealth ? Of course not, effort must be rewarded.
Scripture please. I agree that the government does. It's wrong.
Land reforms. Where a corrupt dictator such as Samosa , who was support by the USA, owned much land and other riches, that should go to the government to be used/distributed to the people.
The USA wanted certain riches and lands returned to corrupt supporter of Samosa.
What about crown land ? Are you against that?
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Make sure wealthy companies don't take unfair advantage of its workers.
Capitalist countries do this. In fact, they overdo it, which is part of the problem.
Am I reading you wrong? Are you actually saying we should slacken our laws that protect workers? If so where the do you work? You certainly don't work where I do.
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protect the environment so companies don't get rich by overexplotation and pollution.
Again, we do this (overdo this
Again is this a misread?! We should just let companies pollute God's Creation??!
Correction. The "profit" is not what is unfair. Stealing, bribing, etc. aren't profit. No one is suggesting that businesses should just run amuck and ignore laws and fair labor practices.
You used the words together "unfair profit" . Business do ignore laws and have unfair labour practice. You have to think global here or more to the past. I can tell you when your a big enough company you get away with a little more than others. If you can tell me what happens when a company has an environmental spill then you maybe understand that.
I think quite a few kids are going hungry despite 7 trillion dollars in the hand of government. The private sector, like it or not, is more compassionate that government, more efficient, and more effective. Big government doesn't care about the poor, unless they can do so in front of a TV camera during an election year.
The whole thing is that Bono and friends were saying governments were not doing enough, but I think Canada new leader might move some on that. Despite the government not doing enough nobody picks up the slack.
The Church doesn't do it. The Private sector doesn't . Rich people don't.
Okay yeah Bill Gates does give a lot. My point it still not enough.
So whats the answer? Everyone has a role to play including government.
The IMF is the biggest problem if you ask me.
American wealth is no accident. It is the product of the puritan work ethic, along with limited government and the free market. Unfortunately, we are slowly losing all three.
Some might say that American wealth came from stealing from the natives
and on the backs of Black slave labour. I do agree that work ethic is lacking, that effort needs to be rewarded, and that in Canada we don't need a Senate.
Scripture please.
We covered to wide an area already in too long of a post. Yet I didn't deal with all you said. Let me get into scripture in another post.
Mike the Bluesman
