"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."
There has been some debate as wether or not this passage really refers to God being manifest in the flesh... So what do all of you think of 1 Timothy 3:16? The reason I'm bringing this up here is because one of our members here deny what this passage is saying. In fact, if I remember correctly, this person has claimed that the word for God here isnt used in the earliest manuscripts, but was added in at a later time (probably in the 2nd century).
So is this passage reliable?
1 Timothy 3:16
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1 Timothy 3:16
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Actually, it's a Majority (received) Text vs. Alexandrian Text question.
Majority Text:
θεος εφανερωθη εν σαρκι
Alexandrian Text:
ος εφανερωθη εν σαρκι
Notice the majority says "theos ephanerothe en sarki" ("God was manifested in the flesh." The Alexandrian, though, doesn't use "theos" (God), it uses "hos" (He), thus, "hos ephanerothe en sarki" ("He was manifested in the flesh.")
Most modern translations--NASB, NIV, ESV, etc,--go with the Alexandrian texts, whereas the KJV and NKJV go by the Majority Text. It's a serious debate right now which better represents the original. You can find arguments on both sides.
God bless
Majority Text:
θεος εφανερωθη εν σαρκι
Alexandrian Text:
ος εφανερωθη εν σαρκι
Notice the majority says "theos ephanerothe en sarki" ("God was manifested in the flesh." The Alexandrian, though, doesn't use "theos" (God), it uses "hos" (He), thus, "hos ephanerothe en sarki" ("He was manifested in the flesh.")
Most modern translations--NASB, NIV, ESV, etc,--go with the Alexandrian texts, whereas the KJV and NKJV go by the Majority Text. It's a serious debate right now which better represents the original. You can find arguments on both sides.
God bless
And that, brothers and sisters, is the kind of foolishness you get people who insist on denying biblical theism. A good illustration of any as the length people will go to avoid acknowledging basic truths.Proinsias wrote:I don't think you are hearing me. Preference for ice cream is a moral issue
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Church Fathers from the first three Centuries used "theos". That pretty much settles it. (Besides, a man being made manifest in the flesh is hardly a mystery).
See http://www.lamblion.net/EBooks/false_citations.pdf
See http://www.lamblion.net/EBooks/false_citations.pdf
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