The Pre-Trib. Rapture according to OT typeolgy

[LowlyOne]

Just food for thought taken from http://www.prophecyforum.com/rapture.html :

The Pretribulation Rapture (1 Thess. 4:16-17; 1 Cor. 15:51-52)

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According to the pretribulational view of the Rapture, the church will be translated prior to the seventieth week of Daniel and return with the Lord to the earth at the Second Advent. Hand in hand with this view is the doctrine of imminency, which emphasizes that the Lord can return any moment without regard to signs. All signs are for Israel and therefore relate to the Revelation (Rev. 19:11-21), when He will come with the saints at the end of the Tribulation period. In support of the pretribulational rapture, Walvoord comments:

Two important presuppositions, however, are essential to the pretribulation position: (1) the definition of the church as a separate body of saints distinct from saints of other ages; (2) the doctrine of a future tribulation of unprecedented severity. This involves usually the concept that the seventieth week of Daniel's prophecy for Israel is also future in its entirety.

Paul D. Feinberg, in his conclusion supporting the pretribulation Rapture, comments:

For me at least, the church will not go through the Tribulation because of the character of that entire period as a time of the outpouring of penal, retributive, divine wrath, as well as the promises of God to the church that exempt it from both the time and the experience of wrath. Further, it is necessary to separate the Rapture of the church from the Second Advent of Christ because of the need for an interval for people to be saved, so that they can enter into the kingdom age in natural, unglorified bodies. Finally, the differences between the Rapture passages and Second Coming passages lead me to believe that there are two separate events referred to in the passages.

As Feinberg states, God has promised in certain passages of Scripture that the church will be exempt from “both the time and the experience of wrath.” Revelation 3:10 states: “I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.” Paul states in 1 Thess. 5:9: “For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ.” Paul further explains in 1 Thess. 1:10: “And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.” Feinberg includes “possibly Romans 5:9; Ephesians 5:6 [and] Colossians 3:6.” We find many Old Testament types that add weight to the body of evidence in favor of the church being delivered from God's wrath during this period. Clarence Larkin comments:

The typical teaching of the Scriptures demand that the Church be caught out “before” the Tribulation. Joseph was a type of Christ and he was espoused to, and married Asenath, a Gentile bride, during the time of his “rejection by his brethren,” and “before the famine,” which typified the Tribulation, because it was the time of “Judgment of his Brethren.” This is the time of Christ's rejection by “His brethren”—the Jews, and to complete the type He must get His Bride—the church, “before” the Tribulation.


Moses, who is also a type of Christ, got his bride, and she a Gentile, “after” his rejection by his brethren, and “before” they passed through the Tribulation under Pharaoh. Ex. 2:23-25.


Enoch, a type of the “Translation Saints,” was caught out “before” the Flood, and the Flood is a type of the Tribulation, and Noah and his family of the “Jewish Remnant” or 144,000 sealed ones of Rev. 7:1-8, who will be preserved through the Tribulation.

And, of course, there is Lot who was taken out before divine judgment was meted out upon Sodom and Gomorrah. Genesis 19:22 tells us: “Haste thee, escape thither; for I cannot do anything till thou be come thither.” God was at a standstill until Lot was taken out from among them. Then there is the account of Rahab in Jericho (a type of the world system), who was spared the divine judgment of God (Joshua 2:1-24; 6:17-25). Rebekah, who also was a Gentile bride, was spared from tribulation before leaving home to meet Isaac, who is a type of Christ (Gen. 24:1-67). Pentecost states, “While argument from analogy is a weak argument in itself, yet if a teaching is contrary to all typology it can not be a true interpretation.”

[fondstatue]

daniel and revelation and bible says no secret rapture usa will force sunday worship and if you accept sunday 7 last plagues will fall on youn accept saturday sabbath gods seal church will be persucutes and suffer no secret rapture probation wilo close what your thinking is dangerous for your salvation

[Canuckster1127]

daniel and revelation and bible says no secret rapture usa will force sunday worship and if you accept sunday 7 last plagues will fall on youn accept saturday sabbath gods seal church will be persucutes and suffer no secret rapture probation wilo close what your thinking is dangerous for your salvation

Again. Huh?

I think you're trying to say that you believe that those who worship on Sunday are wrong and those who worship on Saturday are right and that whent he rapture comes only those who worship on Saturday will be taken while those who worship on Sunday will remain to go through the tribulation.

Is this right?

Please try and put it into coherant sentences and include Scripture to make clear what you're saying.

[fondstatue]

those who worship on saturday is right thosenwho worship on sunday is wrong when usa enforces sunday law even saturday people who is right will not be taken there will not be any secret rapture for right or wrong nobody all people good and bad will go threw tribulation

[Canuckster1127]

those who worship on saturday is right thosenwho worship on sunday is wrong when usa enforces sunday law even saturday people who is right will not be taken there will not be any secret rapture for right or wrong nobody all people good and bad will go threw tribulation

Ok. That's better. I understand what you're saying. I disagree with you on Saturday worship being a commandment of today's Church but I have no problem with you worshipping on whichever day you believe to be right.

What do want us to do with regard to your unsupported opinion here?

Do you want to discuss it? If so, why not explain why you believe there is no rapture.

[fondstatue]

daniel 9 says in midst of 70 week will be cut of cause scrrife to stop it happened 34 ad what false teachers says 70 th week move it to last dfays and 7 year tribulation antichrist will rule but that teaching came into church 70 0r 1800s originaly church dident teach that the truth catholic church antichrist and 321 constanten changed saturday to sunday even catholic chuch admits it all in scripture says jesus even apostlres keep sturday not one commandment in bible saying keep sunday.thr truth will never be popular plus church cant escaope tribulation in secret when judgment hasent finished yet jesus is still judging records of people plus study daniel revelation youl see Gods last day prophet send from god ellen g white i come from the true church that preaches the truth seventh daY adventist

[Canuckster1127]

daniel 9 says in midst of 70 week will be cut of cause scrrife to stop it happened 34 ad what false teachers says 70 th week move it to last dfays and 7 year tribulation antichrist will rule but that teaching came into church 70 0r 1800s originaly church dident teach that the truth catholic church antichrist and 321 constanten changed saturday to sunday even catholic chuch admits it all in scripture says jesus even apostlres keep sturday not one commandment in bible saying keep sunday.thr truth will never be popular plus church cant escaope tribulation in secret when judgment hasent finished yet jesus is still judging records of people plus study daniel revelation youl see Gods last day prophet send from god ellen g white i come from the true church that preaches the truth seventh daY adventist

Have you read this articlie on Seventh Day Adventism from our main board?

It's by a former member of the Church. What do you think of it?

http://www.godandscience.org/doctrine/daniel7-9.html