How so? Funny Luke: '"The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to release the oppressed, to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor." Then he rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the attendant and sat down. The eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fastened on him, and he began by saying to them, "Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing."' (Luke 4:18-21). Funny John: 'Jesus replied, "I tell you the truth, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed."' (John 8:34-36) Funny Paul: 'Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you wholeheartedly obeyed the form of teaching to which you were entrusted. You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness. I put this in human terms because you are weak in your natural selves. Just as you used to offer the parts of your body in slavery to impurity and to ever-increasing wickedness, so now offer them in slavery to righteousness leading to holiness. When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness. What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ashamed of? Those things result in death! But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life. For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.' (Romans 6:16-23) 'Through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death.' (Romans 8:2)Gman wrote:You are a funny Turgy...Turgonian wrote:Like I said, your concept of free will is from secular philosophy. The Bible pictures free will as a will that wants to follow God.
Who talked about 'strings'? I didn't. But he doesn't change our will only if we 'allow' Him to. He changes our will so that we may embrace Christ as our Saviour and have eternal life.Gman wrote:Did it ever occur to you that maybe you are the one pushing the secular envelope here? He can change our will if we allow him to... It's all about permissions, trust and faith... No strings attached or it isn't free...
I wonder...how do you explain John 4:44-45? '"No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day. It is written in the Prophets: 'They will all be taught by God.' Everyone who listens to the Father and learns from him comes to me."'