Legally proving God exists.

[Gman]

Verse... Also where does it say that he commands to love everyone? Equally.. Remember you can say that you are love, but you also have to speak love.. To everyone... Even your enemies...

[Aviatrix]

85:14 And He is the Oft-Forgiving, Full of Loving-Kindness,

11:90 But ask forgiveness of your Lord, and turn unto Him (in repentance): For my Lord is indeed full of mercy and loving-kindness.

3:8 Our Lord!" (they say), "Let not our hearts deviate now after Thou hast guided us, but grant us mercy from Thine own Presence; for Thou art the Grantor of bounties without measure.

"Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful" is a description of God occuring too many times in the Qur'an for me to just list out. Remember how Muslims start things... bism allah ar-rahman ar-raheem

These two names: Ar-Rahman and Ar-Raheem are intensive forms meaning Mercy. The ones who shows Mercy and Compassion. Allah has said that his Mercy has exceeded his Wrath.

[Aviatrix]

Ah, you changed the question...

On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said: Allah will say on the Day of Resurrection:

Where are those who love one another through My glory? Today I shall give them shade in My shade, it being a day when there is no shade but My shade.

[Gman]

Ah, you changed the question...

On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said: Allah will say on the Day of Resurrection:

Where are those who love one another through My glory? Today I shall give them shade in My shade, it being a day when there is no shade but My shade.

Aviatrix, yes I changed the question after giving it more thought... I don't understand what you are saying.. Is this a Hadith? I don't see it in the Quran..

Where does it command to love your neighbor as yourself? And what about my enemies?

[Canuckster1127]

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Why disallow debating from those who strongly disagree with Christian beliefs?
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But I see so many distortions... I just want to enlighten others with my knowledge!
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But, it does not seem fair...
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