Are humans superior to animals?

godslanguage · Post by **godslanguage** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:14 pm

"I like the “anthropomorphic fallacy”. So Washoe misunderstood something. I misunderstand things all the time. I like animals. I wouldn't put men so high above them."

Don't you think the writer here kind of falls out of line with this first statement. "I like animals. I wouldn't put men so high above them".
First of all, it looks like the author is comparing animals towards "men" in particular. (shouldn't it be man) LOL!
God put man far above all other living things.
Is the writer saying she would think twice before she would have choose a sacrifice between a human being or a dog?
I love animals as well, but I don't "love" them. Unless its a terrorist or a serial killer, I will always choose a human over any animal...sorry.

Turgonian · Post by **Turgonian** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:34 am

godslanguage -- Thank you for your response. You are obviously right (now I should get her to see that...). When someone asks the question, 'Are humans afraid of bacteria or are bacteria afraid of humans?', you could always say, 'Are humans afraid of falling anvils or are falling anvils afraid of humans? So who's superior?'

It's not that Elfhild puts animals above humans, but she thinks I shouldn't say they're far inferior to humans when it comes to intelligence and metaphysics. After all, who knows...?

Gman -- Good point.

Ape -- Hiya mate, good to see you here! What's your name? We'll give you a banana if you answer our questions. Answer them coherently and you'll get two.

puritan lad · Post by **puritan lad** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:15 am

I Love Animals too...

...They're delicious!!!

Sorry about that... I had a run in with PETA at the beach last weekend, so I had to get that off my chest

Byblos · Post by **Byblos** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:20 am

an ape wrote:ifn I anser yer kwestuns, willya gimme a banana?

First you'd have to prove you're an ape. Bananas are expensive you know, I wouldn't want to waste them on an ape-wannabe.

Byblos · Post by **Byblos** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:27 am

puritan lad wrote:I Love Animals too...

...They're delicious!!!

Sorry about that... I had a run in with PETA at the beach last weekend, so I had to get that off my chest

PL, a plug for your blog (which is great by the way) and antagonizing PETA in the same thread

. You are shameless! (but do go on

).

puritan lad · Post by **puritan lad** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:34 am

What's worse...

I'm an ape!!!

see http://www.thetheisticevolutionpage.org/ape_babies.htm

BGoodForGoodSake · Post by **BGoodForGoodSake** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:28 am

A Scientific Response:

Animals do not have speech*, some species can communicate vocally. Some apes have shown language processing capabilities through sign language, and other non-vocal means.

*There have been several case-studies with birds which show they also have language processing capability, but this does not occur in the wild.

Some animals can make progress and learn and pass down knowledge to the next generation.

Dolphins may not be as smart as popularly conceived.

The rest of this include anecdotes which do not stand up to scientific scrutiny. For instance this cat

Canuckster1127 · Post by **Canuckster1127** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:54 am

Bgood,

Can you give me an example of animals passing and building upon information from one generation to another?

Thanks.

Bart

Canuckster1127 · Post by **Canuckster1127** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:23 pm

Dr Zaius? Is that you?

BGoodForGoodSake · Post by **BGoodForGoodSake** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:46 pm

Canuckster1127 wrote:Bgood,

Can you give me an example of animals passing and building upon information from one generation to another?

Thanks.

Bart

Sure

click here

Canuckster1127 · Post by **Canuckster1127** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:52 pm

Thank you. Interesting article.

godslanguage · Post by **godslanguage** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:57 pm

BGoodForGoodSake wrote:
Canuckster1127 wrote:Bgood,

Can you give me an example of animals passing and building upon information from one generation to another?

Thanks.

Bart
Sure

click here

So the article is saying that chimps and crows are on the same level of intellgence as well? So our closest relatives the chimps are about to get outsmarted by crows

Canuckster1127 · Post by **Canuckster1127** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:38 pm

Crow can't peel bananas and throw their own feces out of a cage.

They still have a ways to go.

godslanguage · Post by **godslanguage** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:25 pm

Anyone see the episode of the Simpsons where the dolphins take over the whole town? Cartoons don't lie, think about what we are in for when the Crows attack, just try eating your PETA Puritan Lad...you will regret it

Angel Cake · Post by **Angel Cake** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:57 pm

puritan lad wrote:I had a run in with PETA at the beach last weekend, so I had to get that off my chest

Well, don't leave us hanging. What happened?