Please , Who can explain following:
1A: A sentence in Bible Ezekiel Book: “… … a whirlwind came out of the north, … … Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. … … they had the likeness of a man” (KJV, Ezekiel 1:4-5).
1B: The biological scientist definite that human DNA molecule is a “right-handed” double “helical chain” that is composed by “four kinds of nucleotides” that they encoding the “human biological body”.
1C: Obviously, Ezekiel saw a DNA “helical chain” as a “ whirlwind”; saw “came out of the north” as DNA “right-handed” helical; saw the “four kinds of nucleotides” as “four living creatures”; saw “encoding human biological body” as “form of a man”.
Which is the Science? Which is the Religion? A, B or C? What is the Same and Different?
Who can explain following:
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Can anyone come up with any objective measure of how close a set of observations fits Ezekiel?Dongsheng Zhang wrote:Please , Who can explain following:
1A: A sentence in Bible Ezekiel Book: “… … a whirlwind came out of the north, … … Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. … … they had the likeness of a man” (KJV, Ezekiel 1:4-5).
1B: The biological scientist definite that human DNA molecule is a “right-handed” double “helical chain” that is composed by “four kinds of nucleotides” that they encoding the “human biological body”.
1C: Obviously, Ezekiel saw a DNA “helical chain” as a “ whirlwind”; saw “came out of the north” as DNA “right-handed” helical; saw the “four kinds of nucleotides” as “four living creatures”; saw “encoding human biological body” as “form of a man”.
For example, how much better or worse does DNA correspond to Ezekiel than Grantland Rice's article fits Ezekiel?
This article has most of your 15 points (except wheels). Cyclones, lightning, 4 figures, wings, calf (leather clad feet), etc. The 15 points has several stretches, for example,http://archives.nd.edu/rockne/rice.html wrote:Outlined against a blue-gray October sky, the Four Horsemen rode again. In dramatic lore they are known as Famine, Pestilence, Destruction and Death. These are only aliases. Their real names are Stuhldreher, Miller, Crowley and Layden. They formed the crest of the South Bend cyclone before which another fighting Army football team was swept over the precipice at the Polo Grounds yesterday afternoon as 55,000 spectators peered down on the bewildering panorama spread on the green plain below.
A cyclone can't be snared. It may be surrounded, but somewhere it breaks through to keep on going. When the cyclone starts from South Bend, where the candle lights still gleam through the Indiana sycamores, those in the way must take to storm cellars at top speed.
Yesterday the cyclone struck again as Notre Dame beat the Army, 13 to 7, with a set of backfield stars that ripped and crashed through a strong Army defense with more speed and power than the warring cadets could meet.
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A forward pass from Stuhldreher to Crowley added twelve yards, and a moment later Don Miller ran twenty yards around Army's right wing.
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On the next play Crowley swung out and around the Army's left wing, cut in and then crashed over the line for Notre Dame's second touchdown.
DNA is not bright yellow. "Crystal phosphate" is described as bright yellow, but what is "crystal phosphate" (phosphate is negatively charged and needs a positive charge to balance it) and what does "crystal phosphate" have to do with DNA?4A: Ezekiel described the structure of the four living creatures: “their feet were like those of a calf and gleamed like burnished bronze”.
4B: The biological scientist described: each nucleotide having one phosphate group. Indeed, the color of crystal phosphate is bright yellow just like the “burnished bronze”.
4C: Obviously, Ezekiel saw the phosphate as “burnished bronze” in the “feet”.
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2A: Ezekiel described the four living creatures: “Their wings were spread out upward; … one touching the wing of another creature on either side.” “and each had two wings covering its body”.
2B: The biological scientist described the four nucleotides in a DNA molecule: One kind of the chemical bonds is between the phosphates and the sugars to form sugar-phosphate backbone for linking one nucleotide to another. Another kind of chemical bonds is hydrogen bonds between complementary nucleotides (A-T, C-G), responsible for establishing and preserving DNA's special structure and functions, such as, the bases are largely buried in the interior of the DNA and are kept away from water.
2C: Obviously, Ezekiel saw “bond between the phosphate and the sugar” as “wing touching the wing of another”; saw “the bases are largely buried in the interior of the DNA and are kept away from water” as “wings covering its body”.
Which is the Science? Which is the Religion? A, B or C? What is the Same and Different? Please get your 2C.
2A: Ezekiel described the four living creatures: “Their wings were spread out upward; … one touching the wing of another creature on either side.” “and each had two wings covering its body”.
2B: The biological scientist described the four nucleotides in a DNA molecule: One kind of the chemical bonds is between the phosphates and the sugars to form sugar-phosphate backbone for linking one nucleotide to another. Another kind of chemical bonds is hydrogen bonds between complementary nucleotides (A-T, C-G), responsible for establishing and preserving DNA's special structure and functions, such as, the bases are largely buried in the interior of the DNA and are kept away from water.
2C: Obviously, Ezekiel saw “bond between the phosphate and the sugar” as “wing touching the wing of another”; saw “the bases are largely buried in the interior of the DNA and are kept away from water” as “wings covering its body”.
Which is the Science? Which is the Religion? A, B or C? What is the Same and Different? Please get your 2C.
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Hmm good question; i however wonder why wouldg God want to show us DNA in such a metaphorical way. WHy not straight forward? Well it says that we shud interpret Bible as it was written but if it is full of metaphors, symbols and interepreatiaotn s then why shud it be like thayt? Why are there metaphors or so and at the same time we're told to understand it as written? Also about the monsters etc in book of revelation dont they represent things - i.e. personification or symbol or metaphor or so? Or will real monsters come? Doesnt Bible contain lots of such places? Wasnt it meant to be simple to read, without any literate stuff in it? Yes i know God cudnt have said stuff like phosphates to ezekiel coz they knew not wat they were; however why did he talk in metaphorical or symbolical language? Cud amnone xplain this?
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Re: Who can explain the second?
Why would Ezekiel see DNA as wings? No one can see DNA in the literal sense since DNA is too small. There are various techniques which produce images based on an interaction with DNA but these do not seem winglike to me. Also there are various techniques for producing visual models of DNA, but again, I have never seen alar applied to these.Dongsheng Zhang wrote:2C: Obviously, Ezekiel saw “bond between the phosphate and the sugar” as “wing touching the wing of another”; saw “the bases are largely buried in the interior of the DNA and are kept away from water” as “wings covering its body”.
Here are some pictures; who sees phosphate sugar bonds as wings?
Unlinked DNA under electron microscope:
DNA electron density map with bonds shown:
Molecular model - phosphates are probably the yellow and red groups on the outside (false color obviously):
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[quote="Dongsheng Zhang"]Please , Who can explain following:
1A: A sentence in Bible Ezekiel Book: “… … a whirlwind came out of the north, … … Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. … … they had the likeness of a man” (KJV, Ezekiel 1:4-5).
1C: Obviously, Ezekiel saw a DNA “helical chain” as a “ whirlwind”; saw “came out of the north” as DNA “right-handed” helical; saw the “four kinds of nucleotides” as “four living creatures”; saw “encoding human biological body” as “form of a man”.
What if the four creatures were cherubim exalted angelic beings (see
2kings 24:11-16 & Job 38:1) who constantlyattend the throne of God.that
was shown to Ezekiel.
four faces lion-Mathew, ox-Mark, man-Luke, eagle-John. if these four were connected ( maybe or maybe not physicallyat the back they could fly in any direction anytime.
1A: A sentence in Bible Ezekiel Book: “… … a whirlwind came out of the north, … … Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. … … they had the likeness of a man” (KJV, Ezekiel 1:4-5).
1C: Obviously, Ezekiel saw a DNA “helical chain” as a “ whirlwind”; saw “came out of the north” as DNA “right-handed” helical; saw the “four kinds of nucleotides” as “four living creatures”; saw “encoding human biological body” as “form of a man”.
What if the four creatures were cherubim exalted angelic beings (see
2kings 24:11-16 & Job 38:1) who constantlyattend the throne of God.that
was shown to Ezekiel.
four faces lion-Mathew, ox-Mark, man-Luke, eagle-John. if these four were connected ( maybe or maybe not physicallyat the back they could fly in any direction anytime.
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This is ridiculous. Can anybody point me to that tree where I can see the whole world? Maybe then I can see the DNA "whirlwind"