Vaccination Dilemma

purple · Post by **purple** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:38 am

I am a new mom. My baby is 5 months. I am deciding whether to vaccinate. My baby had a difficult birth and was contraindicated for at least a year, so I have had time to read about this issue and do some investigating. I have learned that some vaccines contain cells derived from human aborted fetal tissue (some MMR combos and chickenpox, e.g.). Others contain monkey tissue and chicken embryos. I am certain this cannot be okay with God. I have wondered if the rise in autism charged to the MMR could be a result of His wrath? I am also afraid of not offering my child protection against certain illnesses. Any thoughts?

puritan lad · Post by **puritan lad** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:44 pm

purple wrote:I am a new mom. My baby is 5 months. I am deciding whether to vaccinate. My baby had a difficult birth and was contraindicated for at least a year, so I have had time to read about this issue and do some investigating. I have learned that some vaccines contain cells derived from human aborted fetal tissue (some MMR combos and chickenpox, e.g.). Others contain monkey tissue and chicken embryos. I am certain this cannot be okay with God. I have wondered if the rise in autism charged to the MMR could be a result of His wrath? I am also afraid of not offering my child protection against certain illnesses. Any thoughts?

I would say vaccinate. Your lack of doing so will not save a single human embryo (if in fact the above is true, and that itself is questionable).

Chicken Pox???? Human Embryo??? Can someone confirm this?????

purple · Post by **purple** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:11 pm

http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_cir ... vax_pi.pdf

purple · Post by **purple** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:17 pm

Here's more information: http://www.life.org/vac.html

But, if I vaccinate my child with vaccines containing cells acquired from aborted children, aren't I condoning abortion and murder? Is it okay to abort children just as long as we use their bodies for purposes which "help" mankind?

andyredeemed · Post by **andyredeemed** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:29 am

Purple. I agree this is a difficult one. I have five kids, and all have been vaccinated with the triple. I didn't know about the possibility that vaccine might be manufactured using material from aborted foetuses, and I'm not certain that it would have changed my choice. As Puritanlad says, it wouldn't save any children not to use it. I don't think we can be held morally responsible for the decisions of others, or that benefiting from others moral choices affirms our agreement with their choice, or if so, only to a point. I don't condone war, but I don't regret the fact that I don't live in a Britain ruled by Nazi Germany.
As for the issue of vaccines made from chicken or monkey material, well, if I was a vegetarian, this might be an issue, but as far as being a Christian is concerned, it's morally equivalent to eating meat. We use heart-valves from pigs in heart surgery on humans, and many lives have been saved through it.
In fact, the chief Rabbi of Britain has even said that pig tissue is ok for Jews to receive in life-saving surgery. (and I think that if I where Jewish, I would approach such an issue with extreme seriousness).
We are expecting another child in August, and I will have it vaccinated just the same as the others. The link between autism and MMR remains unproven, and children really do die of measles(even if it's not common).
Is it possible to request that specific vaccines NOT manufactured from foetuses be used on your children? I know that vegetarians can make such requests when an alternative therapy exists.

purple · Post by **purple** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:47 am

It makes me very sad to hear you say those things, andy. Of course we are responsible for others' actions...we are responsible in how we react. Accepting the marketing of vaccines which make use of murdered children is supporting the murder of children. That is why, as an animal activist, I do not wear furs. It is true that I cannot save those animals already killed for their furs, but I can make a statement and not support their slaughter.

If using a vaccine that contains chicken or monkey material/dna is the same as eating that monkey or chicken, are we eating dead babies?

The link between autism and the MMR has been supported in many studies. There is a definite link, the question is why?

And, no, there are no vaccines available to replace those which condone the murder of children. No one seems to know or care. Christians seem to think it's not a big deal. No one is fighting to pressure pharmaceutical companies/gov. to develop vaccines which are "cleaner". Or, everyone thinks it's okay because they are afraid to protest or do not like the inconvenience of protest.

It is an abomination in the eyes of my God.

purple · Post by **purple** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:58 am

Good info.: http://poisonevercure.150m.com/from_a_c ... _point.htm

purple · Post by **purple** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:28 am

I am going to get a religious exemption.

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