Aborted Fetuses?

[He has risen]

I chop up feotal chickens every day in the name of science. Is this ok???

[zoegirl]

Care to elaborate on your rather bizarre statement?
IF you are referring to chicken eggs, ummm, they would be unfertilized...

[Lufia]

If there is no hell, where is Satan going to be at judgment day?

[cslewislover]

I came back to this board with a question, and found it got quite strange! My question relates to the age of accountability issue. I have difficulty with this because it seems to me that if God knew us even before we were born, if we died before we were adults he would know already who accepts Him and who doesn't, right? So this seeming conflict bothered me, and I wondered what some of you who are into doctrine more thought about it.

I was very surprised to read that some do not believe in heaven or hell. Since they are basic Christian doctrines, why be a Christian if you don't want to agree with them? If Christ himself said that there is a heaven and a hell (which He did), and you disagree with Him, why would He say He knows you?

The other thing was not believing that your soul is in Heaven with Christ when you die. I looked this up in RC Sproul's Essential Truths of the Christian Faith (Tyndale 1992). He writes that most Christians believe in an intermediate state where our souls are with Christ after we die, and we receive our glorified bodies at the resurrection. This has been my understanding after hearing pastors and preachers, and reading many commenteries. He wrote that the "soul sleep" idea departs from orthodox Christianity and ignores verses or their common understandings. (I don't know what the motivation for adopting this idea would be - it doesn't seem to serve any purpose for the Christian.) In Philippians 1:23, Paul said that he desires to depart to be with Christ. In Luke 23:43, Jesus tells the repentent criminal that he'll be in heaven with Him that day. In 2 Corinthians 5:8 Paul says that we "would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord."

[BavarianWheels]

I came back to this board with a question, and found it got quite strange! My question relates to the age of accountability issue. I have difficulty with this because it seems to me that if God knew us even before we were born, if we died before we were adults he would know already who accepts Him and who doesn't, right? So this seeming conflict bothered me, and I wondered what some of you who are into doctrine more thought about it.

I was very surprised to read that some do not believe in heaven or hell. Since they are basic Christian doctrines, why be a Christian if you don't want to agree with them? If Christ himself said that there is a heaven and a hell (which He did), and you disagree with Him, why would He say He knows you?

The other thing was not believing that your soul is in Heaven with Christ when you die. I looked this up in RC Sproul's Essential Truths of the Christian Faith (Tyndale 1992). He writes that most Christians believe in an intermediate state where our souls are with Christ after we die, and we receive our glorified bodies at the resurrection. This has been my understanding after hearing pastors and preachers, and reading many commenteries. He wrote that the "soul sleep" idea departs from orthodox Christianity and ignores verses or their common understandings. (I don't know what the motivation for adopting this idea would be - it doesn't seem to serve any purpose for the Christian.) In Philippians 1:23, Paul said that he desires to depart to be with Christ. In Luke 23:43, Jesus tells the repentent criminal that he'll be in heaven with Him that day. In 2 Corinthians 5:8 Paul says that we "would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord."

Aborted Fetuses...into soul sleep??'
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[cslewislover]

I'm sorry I didn't do quotes, but I was responding in the latter paragraphs to those who don't believe in heaven or hell, or when you get to wherever you're going after you die. There was a lot of that discussion on the previous page.