Declaration of Independence: Makes certain assertions that need to be scripturally qualified:
When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
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That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
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Discuss these assertions from a Biblical Perspective.
Declaration of Independence
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Why do they need to be discussed from a biblical perspective?
A major argument the FF had (with which I agree) is that some moral truths are SELF-EVIDENT. You don't need Scripture to back them up. They are, rather, a part of the fabric of reality iteslf for the simple reason that God has so-constituted the world.
Look, again, at the three assertions:
1. If you are going to rebel against your government and start a new one, you'd better have a good reason and had better be able to tell the rest of the world what it is.
I'd agree that is self-evident.
2. All men are created equal by God.
Definitely self-evident.
3. Government comes from the people, and when it begins to supress its own, it should be abolished.
Again, pretty self-evident.
I'm not saying we don't need to have a biblical perspective per se, but I'm saying that with or without biblical verses, the DoI stands as a testimony to truth. My personal anyway . . .
A major argument the FF had (with which I agree) is that some moral truths are SELF-EVIDENT. You don't need Scripture to back them up. They are, rather, a part of the fabric of reality iteslf for the simple reason that God has so-constituted the world.
Look, again, at the three assertions:
1. If you are going to rebel against your government and start a new one, you'd better have a good reason and had better be able to tell the rest of the world what it is.
I'd agree that is self-evident.
2. All men are created equal by God.
Definitely self-evident.
3. Government comes from the people, and when it begins to supress its own, it should be abolished.
Again, pretty self-evident.
I'm not saying we don't need to have a biblical perspective per se, but I'm saying that with or without biblical verses, the DoI stands as a testimony to truth. My personal anyway . . .
And that, brothers and sisters, is the kind of foolishness you get people who insist on denying biblical theism. A good illustration of any as the length people will go to avoid acknowledging basic truths.Proinsias wrote:I don't think you are hearing me. Preference for ice cream is a moral issue
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Re: Declaration of Independence
Because if they conflict with scripture that makes them unscriptural.Jac3510 wrote:Why do they need to be discussed from a biblical perspective?
Getting a group of guys together and saying that whatever you deem truth is self-evident simply isn't good enough.
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Re: Declaration of Independence
Do they conflict with Scripture?
And that, brothers and sisters, is the kind of foolishness you get people who insist on denying biblical theism. A good illustration of any as the length people will go to avoid acknowledging basic truths.Proinsias wrote:I don't think you are hearing me. Preference for ice cream is a moral issue