Are Denominations Ordained by God?

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Re: Are Denominations Ordained by God?

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cslewislover wrote:
zoegirl wrote:
age wrote: All of us have similarities and differences. Jac and I have squared off on election before(well, I probably backed off before the term "squared off" can really be used :P , there wasn;t going to be a resolution there!). CSL is YEC and I am OEC. YOu have presented very nice arguments and posts here on multiple topics. IT'sjust plain mystifying why one or two questions has even brought this to this level.
Actaully, I'm not YEC, but that's OK. I just don't agree with a small number of OEC arguments. y\:D/ Hee hee. Good post though. :)
Ya see Age - not all mod's think alike here - we are all from different backgrounds!

So Zoe and cslewislover - does this make us a demonination??? :eugeek: :mrgreen:
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zoegirl wrote:
Byblos wrote:
zoegirl wrote:This has made me curious, howver, I want to know what Byblos in his original post about the increase in the numbers. Byblos, are you meaning that we all would have slightly different views ?
I hadn't planned on re-engaging in this thread at all, lest I am now accused of enticement (it's enough that we've graduated into conspiracies). But since you asked (and thank you for asking) I will clarify what I meant. The discussion was on the number of denominations (not formally declared denominations mind you, just simply denominations). AoK stated that there actually was only a number in the hundreds, to which I asked what constituted a denomination and the answer was a single person. In my mind, since a previous assertion was made that there were 38,000 of them (an assertion I did not even make by the way), it stood to reason that if a single person can denote a denomination then the 38,000 can be multiplied by their respective number of members (hence the number of denominations is exponentially increased). A rather simple (and yes, silly) thing to say but it was said more with tongue in cheek rather than any attempt at serious debate. There was no intention of slyness in any way in my response but that basically is what sparked AoK's rage.
Ah, gotcha.
no problem....I just was wanting to know.
There was no rage just frustration at your resorting to pulling the mod card in the middle of a discussion and threatening me with a warning which was then issued because I disagreed with you in a way you didn't like and thought you were being argumentative for the sake of it. Also the database I am talking about has over 38,000 documented denominations in the world (many historical denominations no longer in existence) with most surviving having a small number of members falling to as low as one. I note that you skipped right over my assertion that no more than a few hundred denominations make up the bulk of Christiandom in the world.. not 38,000. You got my words twisted in your mind and then made a bad mathematical argument.

Also, you were the one who became angry friend not me and resorted to bold font warnings and whatever else may have happened behind the scenes to get your threat formalized into action against me.

The truth is very different than the way you lay it out here. But I'm not really speaking to you directly just speaking on the subject for the sake of clarity. I forgive you but have no desire to engage you or the person who issued the warning on your behalf ever again. So peace out (slang for peace all around not the absence of peace lest my words be misinterpreted and it end in a ban or yet another nonsensical warning).

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B. W. wrote:
cslewislover wrote:
zoegirl wrote:
age wrote: All of us have similarities and differences. Jac and I have squared off on election before(well, I probably backed off before the term "squared off" can really be used :P , there wasn;t going to be a resolution there!). CSL is YEC and I am OEC. YOu have presented very nice arguments and posts here on multiple topics. IT'sjust plain mystifying why one or two questions has even brought this to this level.
Actaully, I'm not YEC, but that's OK. I just don't agree with a small number of OEC arguments. y\:D/ Hee hee. Good post though. :)
Ya see Age - not all mod's think alike here - we are all from different backgrounds!

So Zoe and cslewislover - does this make us a demonination??? :eugeek: :mrgreen:
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ageofknowledge wrote:There was no rage just frustration at your resorting to pulling the mod card in the middle of a discussion and threatening me with a warning which was then issued because I disagreed with you in a way you didn't like and thought you were being argumentative for the sake of it. Also the database I am talking about has over 38,000 documented denominations in the world (many historical denominations no longer in existence) with most surviving having a small number of members falling to as low as one. I note that you skipped right over my assertion that no more than a few hundred denominations make up the bulk of Christiandom in the world.. not 38,000. You got my words twisted in your mind and then made a bad mathematical argument.

Also, you were the one who became angry friend not me and resorted to bold font warnings and whatever else may have happened behind the scenes to get your threat formalized into action against me.

The truth is very different than the way you lay it out here. But I'm not really speaking to you directly just speaking on the subject for the sake of clarity. I forgive you but have no desire to engage you or the person who issued the warning on your behalf ever again. So peace out (slang for peace all around not the absence of peace lest my words be misinterpreted and it end in a ban or yet another nonsensical warning).
I've already explained myself and have absolutely no desire whatsoever to do it again. Neither do I have an issue whatsoever with you not engaging me in any way, that certainly is your prerogative. Just do know that I am a moderator here and on occasion I must engage with members whether I (or you) like it or not. In addition, I am also a member in good standing of this board and at times I do engage in conversation and respond to certain posts. I will certainly be mindful of our restrictive arrangement but do know that I will not shy away from responding to any post, regardless of the subject or the poster.
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Byblos wrote:I am also a member in good standing of this board...
Where is this list at?
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BavarianWheels wrote:
Byblos wrote:I am also a member in good standing of this board...
Where is this list at?
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Well I haven't been banned yet have I? :wink:
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If you are looking for a members' list, there is a link to the uper right of your screen.


"The team" the bottom will show you the list of the admins and the site owner, etc
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zoegirl wrote:If you are looking for a members' list, there is a link to the uper right of your screen.


"The team" the bottom will show you the list of the admins and the site owner, etc
Yes...that list I know well. However I was asking about a list where I (or others) could find if I'm in good or other standing on the forum. More of a sarcastic question, but you never know.
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There is no list

You can certainly check the user control panel. If you have received any mesages or warnings they should be there.
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zoegirl wrote:There is no list

You can certainly check the user control panel. If you have received any mesages or warnings they should be there.
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BavarianWheels wrote:
Byblos wrote:I am also a member in good standing of this board...
Where is this list at?
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BavarianWheels wrote:
Byblos wrote:I am also a member in good standing of this board...
Where is this list at?
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Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary maintains it.
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BavarianWheels wrote:
Byblos wrote:I am also a member in good standing of this board...
Where is this list at?
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It's a secret. But if you were on it, then you would know where it is. ;)
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B. W. wrote:Are you alone?
I'm never alone B.W.. God never leaves me... even when I fail to measure up to His perfect standards. Peace.
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B. W. wrote:
zoegirl wrote:...Now, the question posed was simply how many people define a denomination? Shall we resume the discussion?
I say it takes more than one because as it is written...

Mat 18:20, "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." KJV
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So a denomination must be of two or three people? Four, five, ten, twenty, or six thousand people cannot have Christ in the midst of them?
Combined with Christ <b>always</b> being with us, it seems there's no reason He wouldn't be with a single person.
Am I missing something?
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