touchingcloth wrote:B W -As you're defending an objective morality, any chance you could explain a couple of things?
How does that objective morality get stamped in to people's minds? After all your brain functions evolved from a single cell, so is that objective morality somehow written in to your DNA?
How is it that different cultures, both now and in the past, have different moral codes?
Simple — through the process of discovery:
An objective moral standard exist despite ones own relativity. Through personal relativity one discovers
'moral absolutes' that cross cultural and social boundaries.
This is where relativist gets confused: the confusion over behavior verse value. In other words, behavior is what determines morals in the relativist world. What people do is always changing; however, the '
what we Ought to do' does not.
Here is the basic life boat scenario: 5 people are in a life raft — and only food and water enough for four people — who do you throw overboard? The answer is: everyone should be thrown overboard because life has no relative value. If life has value, then you would ration the food and water until rescue or toss someone overboard.
You see the value for life exist despite ones behavior of throwing another overboard or rationing. The real value is life; how you live it and behave is another matter. You can be the good decent progressive who determines who gets thrown overboard because the needs of the many outweigh the few or a conservatives who wants people to work together to achieve the best possible good for all because both discovered that Life has value.
Which side is right in their respective value of life? One that kills another so they have the recourses - Or one that helps all to remain live? Who values life more? Whose values are self centered and who is not? Who values life more?
Our behavior helps us discover and uncover Moral Absolutes. We all violate our own moral relativistic codes and rarely do what we ought to do, and instead we try this approach: my genes made me throw them overboard — not my fault.
What have you discovered about yourself and the use of moral relativism?
That is how absolute Moral Standard works - It lets us explore and in the process of discovery uncovers our excuses for breaking Moral Law.
Here is another one — all cultures have varied forms of greeting another with respect. Some use handshakes, others bow, others use a motion with eyes and head, some touch ones shoulder, other kiss on check. It does not matter how the behavior is relative to each culture — the absolute value of Respect is solidified as existent in all cultures despite ones relativism of behavior of showing it.
Lastly to answer your question more directly: since Moral Law exist as does the Moral Law Giver and that we were originally designed to be a reflection of the Moral Law Giver - That is why people everywhere in all ages are always involved in the process of uncovering that there is an objective moral law as it either accuses or excuses them.
It proves that the Moral Law Giver is absolutely just in allowing this discovery and for that, people mock and unjustly accuse God of doing wrong. (
Saying things like: its my genes — the DNA made me do it — can't help it - need to throw this person overboard — since people have different morals therefore no morals exist that can accuse me — I am excused: No God, no way to know truth as all is relative so that I am the only I am as such I excuse myself from any wrongs as there are no wrongs or rights just blue sky…
Who values life more????
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