Reincarnation

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:33 pm

I was recently reading a site that states reincarnation is supported in the Bible. Granted this site is quite strange, but it did bring up some interesting questions regarding this topic.

http://www.reluctant-messenger.com/rein ... verses.htm

Any thoughts?

Poetic_Soul · Post by **Poetic_Soul** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:42 pm

Once appionted man to die;......then comes judgement.

AttentionKMartShoppers · Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:13 pm

Those verses are....saying nothing of the sort...

Just gonna mention the most interesting:

"He chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blemish in his sight and love." (Ephesians 1:4)

They seem to twist the verses that say God sees the future into "REINCARNATION!"

Poetic_Soul · Post by **Poetic_Soul** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:54 am

REINCARNATION is a false sense of hope without needing a SAVIOR. If I mess up, I'll just get it right in my next life. We are not promised tomorrow. "Eat and drink, for tomorrow we die". The bible clearly says;...today is the day of salvation.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:17 pm

What about the Elijah one..that's actually there strongest case.

Mastermind · Post by **Mastermind** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:02 pm

One man's reincarnation does not mean we all reincarnate.

bizzt · Post by **bizzt** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:26 pm

vvart wrote:What about the Elijah one..that's actually there strongest case.

Elijah?? What one is that? John the Baptist? Just because one has the spirit of Elijah it does not mean the Soul of Elijah came back.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:35 am

Reincarnation is generally misunderstood, but yeah i agree with Mastermind on this one.

voicingmaster · Post by **voicingmaster** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:56 pm

Reincarnation is a bunch of hooey. It's been proven false. I mean, how could the population increase if that was true?

Also, if God did do reincarnaation, that would pretty much make Jesus's sacrifice pointless.

Mastermind · Post by **Mastermind** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:06 pm

Just because souls reincarnate does not mean that new ones cannot be created or that all souls are reincarnated on earth

The edge · Post by **The edge** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:05 pm

I get this wacky ideas that people who didn't had a chance to hear would be reincarnated till they heard the gospel & is responsible for their own spiritual fate.
Thus when technology reach every corner of the world & the message is available to all, all would have heard & reincarnation done away & that when jugdement day occurs.

Felgar · Post by **Felgar** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:41 am

The edge wrote:I get this wacky ideas that people who didn't had a chance to hear would be reincarnated till they heard the gospel & is responsible for their own spiritual fate.
Thus when technology reach every corner of the world & the message is available to all, all would have heard & reincarnation done away & that when jugdement day occurs.

Personally I think Paul does a much better job of dealing with those who haven't heard than considering reincarnation.

Romans 1:18-20
The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

j316 · Post by **j316** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:40 am

I don,t think scripture either affirms or rejects reincarnation, but I agree with vvart and mastermind. I don't see anything inherently heretical about the concept of a soul or spirit reappearing on earth after an absence.
The real problem with reincarnation as a means of salvation is that it isn't going to be you who comes back. The spirit that you are a manifestation of may return, but if it goes through the birth process it will be another person, doing you not much good at all.
Jesus promises you eternal life.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 12:02 pm

He will come again in Glory to Judge the Living and the "Dead".

He will not be judging the vessel of flesh but the the very soul of the individual?

Will he not?

One must possess a certain level of psuedo consciousness to be judged and therefore do our souls become reincarnated or never die?

Will or can he Judge a dead soul?

Reincarnation of the physical world may be different of the spiritual world and thus leads me to believe reincarnation is real but limited to the choice made by god himself - as to when - where & why.

Felgar · Post by **Felgar** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 12:04 pm

Michael wrote:One must possess a certain level of psuedo consciousness to be judged and therefore do our souls become reincarnated or never die?

Simply, they never die.