YEC who doesn't deny death before the fall?
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RickD
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YEC who doesn't deny death before the fall?
I finally found a YEC who doesn't deny death before the fall. What do you think? http://blog.drwile.com/?p=259
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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Re: YEC who doesn't deny death before the fall?
Thanks for posting that Rick. I found it interesting.
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Re: YEC who doesn't deny death before the fall?
Nice one Rick.. 
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Re: YEC who doesn't deny death before the fall?
I have never understood why YEC insist there was no death before the fall, sure humans were immortal but what would an ant do with immortality?
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Re: YEC who doesn't deny death before the fall?
A single-mother termite ant with her three fatherless children could eat all the wood in your Florida home over the span of 9000 years...or so. That could do a lot of damage.ROBE wrote:I have never understood why YEC insist there was no death before the fall, sure humans were immortal but what would an ant do with immortality?
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Re: YEC who doesn't deny death before the fall?
Good oneA single-mother termite ant with her three fatherless children could eat all the wood in your Florida home over the span of 9000 years...or so. That could do a lot of damage.
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It would be a blessing if they missed the cairns and got lost on the way back. Or if
the Thing on the ice got them tonight.
I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
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the Thing on the ice got them tonight.
I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
without.
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Re: YEC who doesn't deny death before the fall?
Hey, I debated this guy before! He was convinced of the young earth idea because of the science, not the bible. In fact he admitted there were good old-earth biblical arguments! I actually looked into the YEC arguments more because of him. He's the only tolerable YEC I know of lol 
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Re: YEC who doesn't deny death before the fall?
Did you just say, "tolerable", and "YEC" in the same sentence?Calum wrote:Hey, I debated this guy before! He was convinced of the young earth idea because of the science, not the bible. In fact he admitted there were good old-earth biblical arguments! I actually looked into the YEC arguments more because of him. He's the only tolerable YEC I know of lol
Convinced of YEC, by science? He must've been an OEC spy.
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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Re: YEC who doesn't deny death before the fall?
No, I'm sure he was YEC. He said body armour on armadillos and ankylosaurs was originally used to protect from falling rocksRickD wrote:Did you just say, "tolerable", and "YEC" in the same sentence?Calum wrote:Hey, I debated this guy before! He was convinced of the young earth idea because of the science, not the bible. In fact he admitted there were good old-earth biblical arguments! I actually looked into the YEC arguments more because of him. He's the only tolerable YEC I know of lol
Convinced of YEC, by science? He must've been an OEC spy.
"But now ask the beasts, and let them teach you; And the birds of the heavens, and let them tell you. "Or speak to the earth, and let it teach you; And let the fish of the sea declare to you.(--Job 12)
(Psalms 111:4, Romans 1:20, Psalms 19:1-4, Psalms 97:6)
(Psalms 111:4, Romans 1:20, Psalms 19:1-4, Psalms 97:6)
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Re: YEC who doesn't deny death before the fall?
Thats funny!Calum wrote:No, I'm sure he was YEC. He said body armour on armadillos and ankylosaurs was originally used to protect from falling rocksRickD wrote:Did you just say, "tolerable", and "YEC" in the same sentence?Calum wrote:Hey, I debated this guy before! He was convinced of the young earth idea because of the science, not the bible. In fact he admitted there were good old-earth biblical arguments! I actually looked into the YEC arguments more because of him. He's the only tolerable YEC I know of lol
Convinced of YEC, by science? He must've been an OEC spy.
At least around here, the armadillos think their "body armor" is for when they're walking across the street, and a car is coming. The armadillos curl up in a ball, in the middle of the street, with the hope that they will be protected from a squishing tire.
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
Re: YEC who doesn't deny death before the fall?
He seems like a pretty neat guy. He is willing to look at all sides of a question and provides links to a variety of opinions, not just ones which support his own views.