Where is Heaven

[B. W.]

I am moving the topic of this post off the Mormon Vehemently deny the Trinity Thread to begin a new topic in a more appropriate place as the topic has moved away from Mormonism to more questions that do not pertain to Mormonism. After I get thins switched over, I'll respond.

To quote B.W. "To be able to answer you, need to know where you are coming from. Since this is a thread that involves Mormonism - then I'll asume you are speaking of' 'Higher Reasoning' or however it is called in Mormonism. But I do not want to wrongly asume and then go in a direction you are not. So help us out a bit."

Well like I said "What I like to think" and which also fits comfortably with my perception which I happily made up all by myself! Not that I would call it higher reasoning for there is no scientific reasoning other than perhaps science has found energies within energies like dark matter and a theory of dark energy.

I think I would rather have a delusional (perhaps) belief that with which I can find a small amount of reasonable understanding than just blind faith with no reasoning that Heaven is a literal other world or place of being to which one hopes / prays / has faith.

I understand that no person has seen God in the literal sense of meaning, and God does reside in Heaven, so I guess no person has seen Heaven in the literal form. Only he (Yeshua) whom the spirit of God descended upon in bodily form as symbolized by the dove has seen the nature of God and the nature of Heaven.

I suppose many prefer a literal interpretation of all things relating to Christ and scripture, including the Mormon Church in their own unique way, which is enticing to think we become Gods ourselves

Perhaps I am a God of my own creation If I were a Mormon that is. I'm sure however that Joseph's intent was noble in creating a faith belonging to Americans in the aftermath of much despair from the revolution period. Ma hummed also created unity form tribal warfare. Unfortunately religion also becomes somewhat tribal with many churches holding differing beliefs and political influences perhaps.

Now back to; where is your heaven? and would you like to start a discussion on New Testament hidden meaning / interpretation beginning from Matthew 1. Why are we told and what is the significance of the three periods of fourteen generations? I have an answer but would like to know your understanding. Though to be totally honest I intend to trip you up with knowledge that you may not be aware of Perhaps you believe that Matthew was just creating a symmetry of numbers.

Anyway thanks for the opportunity to express my view's; I thought perhaps I may be a little off base with main stream belief and perhaps a unwanted spice to the dinner table of orthodoxy.

[B. W.]

MoH let me answer you in a manner that may make sense for you. There are three basic line of thought on where Heaven is.

First, Heaven is considered anything higher than the highest mountains and contain the literal atmosphere of earth towards the entire physical Universe. Bible states: God made the Heavens and the earth…

Secondly, there is the spiritual Heaven or to put in terms you may understand better – another dimension – a spiritual dimension. It is the area which God lives. Book of Revelations early chapters describes this existing dimension of heaven as existing.

Thirdly, we are to pray that God’s will be done on earth as in heaven, so in a sense, we are to seek out what His will is so to be able to shine a little heaven on earth.

As for Hell:

Hell exists as a place designed for spiritual beings (Matthew 25:41). Since for spiritual beings it exist in a spiritual dimension. Bible states it is located in the heart of the earth. Most likely in a spiritual dimension or plane as you call it.

Next, people can make life on earth a living Hell as well. Humanity has been doing so since way back when: Doing the Devil’s will on earth and not God’s.

ManofHeaven, These are just the talking points memos on these matters and I hope they help answer your question in terms you are familiar using.

As for the question regarding Mathew 1 and 14 generations: This appears to be discussed elsewhere by you.
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