Discussion about scientific issues as they relate to God and Christianity including archaeology, origins of life, the universe, intelligent design, evolution, etc.
The secular atheist ellite are now setting their sights on the fine tuning argument. It's like these guys along with Hawking, Dawkins and the like are wanting everyone's belief in God eliminated by year's end or dare I say, by November, just in time for the elections, I wonder why.
The secular atheist ellite are now setting their sights on the fine tuning argument. It's like these guys along with Hawking, Dawkins and the like are wanting everyone's belief in God eliminated by year's end or dare I say, by November, just in time for the elections, I wonder why.
Because they are fearful....
The heart cannot rejoice in what the mind rejects as false - Galileo
We learn from history that we do not learn from history - Georg Friedrich Wilhelm Hegel
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things. -Philippians 4:8
Vogt believes "that chances for life on this planet are 100 percent."
So? The only way to prove it is to fly out there and check it out. No one has 100 percent proof.. It's simply not possible until they find concrete evidence. At this point they don't even know if there is water there. And even if it were true, who is to say that God couldn't produce life on other planet?
The heart cannot rejoice in what the mind rejects as false - Galileo
We learn from history that we do not learn from history - Georg Friedrich Wilhelm Hegel
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things. -Philippians 4:8
Doesn't this break or at least dent the apologist defense of extreme fine tuning? I mean, a lot of Creationists say that the mere fact that the Earth is the only planet that's perfectly in between the sun and the moon so that it's not too cool or hot to support life.
And yes, another argument that has been stated is that God didn't create aliens, and so if this planet supports life (even though there's ALOT we don't know about it, like its rotation, gravity, if it even HAS water, etc., but for the sake of argument) doesn't it seriously put a damper on Christian apologists. I'm new here, I actually just found this site a week ago and think it's pretty awesome. I'm not a total philosopher, but I went through some rough patches in my faith concerning science, but it's been renewed and right now I'm just trying to be the best apologist for God I can be.
For example, my atheist friend is almost rejoicing over the discovery of this Goldilocks planet because his church nails the previous arguments into his head all the time.
Again, listen to what Hugh Ross and company have to say about it, they offer a good response and show that as of now, it hasn't put a dent in the fine tuning argument.
And as fate would have it...
