RickD, all that argument does is serve to diminish the resurrection. The issues you are discussing are contemporary, completely observable and testable using the tools of science in the realm that they are intended to measure and prove, and the reality is, there's no reproducible, testible, scientific evidence to back up the claims.RickD wrote:Zoe here are some "credible" sights proving a that the resurrection is a hoaxhttp://www.answering-christianity.com/a ... n_hoax.htmandhttp://www.skepticfiles.org/religion/rf.htm Sounds like an open and shut case there too, huh. Where's the credible, scientific, double-blind studies that prove Christ resurrected from the dead? Zoe, you can prove to yourself that those alkaline water critics are wrong just as easily as you can prove these resurrection critics wrong, if you want to. Resurrection critics would not deny Christ if they have experienced Him in their lives. Alkaline water critics wouldn't deny the benefits of alkaline water if they had tried it themselves. I was a critic myself (of Alkaline water) before I tried it and saw for myself.
I'll give you one nod in your direction however. You're free to do whatever you want, and if you believe that this is helping you, than more power to you and anyone else who is using it. It's demonstrable that psychologically, if someone believes what they are doing is helping them in many situations, that belief is enough to create a psychological and physiological base that enhances their quality of life. I observed that in the life of my father in the last 6 years of his life while he followed a vegan diet and supplements that he believed cured him of cancer. He refused to confirm that claimed healing with medicine, because he believed along the lines that you've argued that doctors and pharmeceutical companies were all out to fleece him. As he was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer and there was little medicine could do for him, there didn't seem to be any point in arguing with him and I'm glad he found peace in the last years of his life. The only element that I regret on his behalf is that he allowed himself to be used and manipulated by the group whose materials he bought into, publishing his testimony of healing, .... ironically, 5 months before he died after the cancer metasticized to 6 other organs in his body and he died rather quickly.
It's evident that you believe that this is helping you. I hope you do well with it. All I'd caution is that you be careful in any situation encouraging people who have desparate needs from forgoing other options, such as medicine and pharmaceuticals where there is testable, recreatible data.
Making a comparison between the resurrection and an alkaline diet is what is known in logic as a catergory error. The resurrection is an historical event that never has, and never will appeal to science to prove. Faith in the end is only as powerful as the object in which it is placed. If you wish to elevate things in this realm as on par with the resurrection of Christ, I'd suggest that this is well beyond a rational issue for you.
I hope you've placed your faith well. Frankly, the claims you assert for an alkaline diet should be provable in science. That they aren't doesn't necessarily mean they're false. Perhaps it will be proven in some fashion in the future. Many people have followed hunches and desires for something to be true and occassionally their proved true later.
All you've shown me in this exchange however is that there's nothing that is going to change you're mind and you're willing to go to any length to cast doubt on any detractors. That's not rational and it's not particularly strongly representative of how I think anyone should examine things, but that's your perogative. I hope it works out well for you.
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