"These are principles we can use to reason an application. Whatever the prevailing custom, men and women should wear gender-appropriate clothing, dressing decently and in order (1 Corinthians 14:40). To apply the principles, the Bible calls cross-dressing or transvestitism a choice that is a demonstration of unbelief and rebellion against God and His order."
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=NIV
Err, I see no such reference in 1 Cor 14....point does not hold.
So where is your scripture that affirms that cross dressing or having a sex change is appropriate or of God? Also why all the talk about outside appearances? Shouldn't we be looking at things of the heart and not the outside appearances?
Yes, I meant to ask that; why is it that nearly everyone here is focusing entirely on outside appearance? If we're seen by God on our inside, then He'll care about our gender(if anything of gender or sex) and not care about sex <b>because it's just part of one's outside body</b>.
The Bible says we should love people... However, the Bible also talks about sin. Sorry to break the news to you..
You said you wanted money to rain whenever you prayed. That's just sinful greed. Love is one of them things listed as good in the Bible. ("God is love.")
The idea that people are born with both fully formed female or male functioning parts is a myth. Or if you could show me a person that could impregnate themselves with their own sperm, that has never been shown.. They might have parts but not fully functioning parts.
Where did this even come into discussion? Closest thing i found was my mention of intersex individuals who are born with both sets of genitalia, partially functioning.
This is a psychological problem and a spiritual one. While I understand how people can get hurt, everyone get's attacked in this life. But to internalize it and turn it into a perversion is a different story. Again, what matters is how God sees you and not your peers. Anyways, the focus needs to come off oneself and into God.
Never seen how it's a perversion.
And for one to say their gender is what it isn't would be lying. That's not very good in God's eyes, now is it?
Born infertile? Can a baby give birth to another child? Are you reading your own links? That is usually determined later through various tests even though there is the belief that it could be genetic. Also people who have been told that they are infertile have miraculously become pregnant.
For the love of God, stop trying to pick apart rhetoric. Rhetoric gets us nowhere. If you read the article, you'd see one can be born with a condition that makes hir unable to produce sex cells, ever. Also, miracles are not considered the norm.
What about 1 Cor 7:1? That just shows that sex is a choice.
Someone said God commands us to have children.
Really hard to do without having sex or being the virgin Mary. Well, today it isn't, but there were several hundred years of impossibility.
Like I was saying before... The suicide rates and many of these problems would go away if we put the focus on God and not ourselves.. We need to stop worrying what people think of us and start thinking what God thinks of us.
Surely you understand these things from experience and not just assuming things?
However, there's another problem with the line of reasoning. Say that you were correct and that men and women might not actually 'be' men and women (I still can't quite understand this, but we'll accept it for the sake of argument). What do you take the Biblical passages that speak of men and women exclusively to mean? Do they speak only of the physically male and female? The one's who think they should be the other gender? What, in fact, defines gender? Is there a percentage of femininity a man should have before they should be considered 'females' trapped in men's bodies? Is it okay then for homosexual behavior to take place? What if one man considers himself a woman? Doesn't Jesus, with the accepted premise, know that He's being ridiculous when He speaks harshly against that sort of behavior? After all, they're bodies might be male or female, but their feelings make them the opposite, and thus attracted the same way the opposite gender would be.
http://gender.wikia.com/wiki/Gender_v_Sex may explain a bit. As would going to a TS forum and reading around.
I take Bible verses by gender, as God cares about the inside more than the outside.
Also, it's wrong to assume homosexuality(well, you're probably imagining heterosexuality but calling it homosexuality because of not accepting TS, but nonetheless) based on transsexuality. The two aren't tied together.
Did I say that? We are all subject to the laws of physics, in some cases, that is the way it goes in our physical world. Genetic accidents. What I'm talking about here is the person's sex. Being happy with your sex whether it's male or female.
For some their sex is something of a "defect".
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don't think it's God's making either.. It's just the laws of physics in action, random genetic mistakes... There is no stopping it, however God can correct it if it is in His will. And NONE of us are genetically perfect. None..
So it's out there that the laws of physics and genetics apply?
Laws of genetics determine sex. Provably.
