In America?

[B. W.]

This happened last Sunday May 15, 2011 to John Hagee - You might not like his ministry but this happened in America...

http://freedomslighthouse.net/2011/05/1 ... deo-51511/

This reminded me of old news real clips of Nazi Brownshirts confronting those to whom they disagree with...

This, in America, what do you all think?

One last thing, Iran is building medium range ballistic missile sites in Venezuela and guess in which direction the missiles will be pointed?

All our media is concerned about is Arnold’s love child…

Well folks, the nuts are running the asylum now days…

God have mercy on our Country because our enemies have none, both foreign and domestic.
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[Telstra Robs]

Was that an usher in the church?

[Gman]

This, in America, what do you all think?
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Thanks Bryan for bringing this up... I think it is an absolute travesty that these people can march into our churches and rant against Israel. I tell you right now that they are actually protesting against GOD ALMIGHTY! It's a complete travesty. So many many people are in the dark about the middle east issues and Israel. Israel is running out of friends that they literally are being pushed into the ocean. It's time for the Christians to stand up for her!

And now they are asking Israel to give up the West Bank? If they want to battle God I wish them luck... There will be severe serve penalties for any country that goes against Israel. I can't believe how stupid people can be. No offense but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out. Wow. Some people just don't get it.

Asking the Palestinians peace for land? And then asking for a guarantee? They can't offer that. Try erasing 4 thousand years of history with a pen stroke.. DUH!

Wake up America! This is a SPIRITUAL problem not a physical one.

[RickD]

You asked what I think, so here goes. It seems obvious to me that Hagee uses a pro Israel stance to rake in loads of cash to pad his wallet. Being the leader of a huge mega church, and still being pastor after his scandals doesn't win any points in my book. While I believe that those that bless Israel will be blessed, I have no sympathy for Hagee. Anyone who takes what I believe is a biblical stance(support of Israel), and uses it to take advantage of the people who view him as their leader is more reprehensible to me, than what the unsaved palistinian supporters did in the video. Anyone who peddles the word of God for a profit, a huge profit at that, is completely without excuse. Hagee IMO is a huge reason why people are turned away from Christianity, and the God of Christianity. As far as what I think about the people who stood up and protested, they are unsaved, as we all once were. A person without Christ is expected to act like that. It really is no surprise.

[Gman]

While I don't personally ascribe to Hagee's view, what I'm talking about here is a spiritual commitment to the Jews via the Holy Spirit. I personally believe that Dr. David Reagan from "Lamb and Lion ministries" has the best grasp on the subject I have ever seen. Please review.

http://www.lamblion.com/articles/articles_jews.php

My personal view is that satan is trying to destroy the Jews via people that do NOT understand what moves them. Unfortunately they do not comprehend God's motives nor take the time to study the scriptures about it.

[RickD]

While I don't personally ascribe to Hagee's view, what I'm talking about here is a spiritual commitment to the Jews via the Holy Spirit. I personally believe that Dr. David Reagan from "Lamb and Lion ministries" has the best grasp on the subject I have ever seen. Please review.

http://www.lamblion.com/articles/articles_jews.php

My personal view is that satan is trying to destroy the Jews via people that do NOT understand what moves them. Unfortunately they do not comprehend God's motives nor take the time to study the scriptures about it.

Gman, I browsed the site you posted. When I get more time, I'll give it a read. It looks like a great website. I don't really see what all the hullabaloo is about Palestine supporters protesting in a "church" run by a wolf in sheep's clothing. What is getting worse IMO, and needs closer attention, is Obama and this administration's relationship with Israel. Type in "obama" in a google search, and the 2nd most popular search is "obama israel". This administration is going down a very dangerous path IMO. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I believe one very important reason that the U.S. has prospered in recent history, and even why we still exist as a country, is because of our support for Israel. If this administration continues on its path of anti-Israel dealings, I don't want to see what happens to us as a country. The United States and its people have been the leading supporters of Israel. Simply put, we have blessed Israel, and in turn, as God promised in Genesis 12:3, we as a nation have been blessed. Obama has made headlines just today, that doesn't bode well for Israel IMO.

[B. W.]

Rick,

The problem is the left’s tactic of intimidation. First they select who to intimidate who poses the least threat to them and then work up later on. Possible, future trend will be such acts like this in your church for any number of reasons – to silence and scare people into inaction, silence, or cow-towing. That is how Fascist operated in the 1920’s and 1930’s.

Have we forgotten Bonheoffer’s word’s? They came… I did nothing... When they came for me – then there was no one…
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[Katabole]

Zech 12:2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. (KJV)

Zech 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

Going against Israel is the equivalent of smacking your head against a wall. What is going on there is beyond the scope of the materialists, naturalists and Muslims. There will only be peace there when Christ returns and not before. Strikes me that Obama more than likely doesn't believe in prophecy. What happens in Israel will be done God's way and not dictated by failed human political policies and rhetoric.

[dorkmaster]

How can people not realize that Israel is our only hope of maintaining "peace" with the radical Muslims. And I cannot believe that the current administration is ignoring this issue...
Daniel Craig from the movie Munich was right..." Don't f*** with the Jews"

[MarcusOfLycia]

I was listening to the radio on the way home and caught a few minutes of the Sean Hannity broadcast. He had a couple of guys on, one of them a lawyer for Hamas. Man... I've never yelled at my radio like that... I almost pulled over to the side of the road. There was something seriously objectively evil about what he was saying that was just deeply disturbing to me (he couldn't seem to align himself against the fact that Hamas states, in its own charter, that Israel must be wiped from the face of the earth and all Jews killed).

I know lawyers have to defend some crazy groups... but I wonder sometimes what it takes for people to voluntarily defend certain people. Kind of made me sick to think this kind of stuff happens. I've heard the phrase "I may disagree with what you say, but I'll defend with my life the right for you to say it." Seems meaningless when what the person is saying is to demand your silence and death... and the silence and death of everyone in your nation. Sorry... at that point I'm going to stop defending you and knock you out first if its possible.

[RickD]

Rick,

The problem is the left’s tactic of intimidation. First they select who to intimidate who poses the least threat to them and then work up later on. Possible, future trend will be such acts like this in your church for any number of reasons – to silence and scare people into inaction, silence, or cow-towing. That is how Fascist operated in the 1920’s and 1930’s.

Have we forgotten Bonheoffer’s word’s? They came… I did nothing... When they came for me – then there was no one…
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That may be true about some on the "left". However, wasn't Hitler considered "far right"? Or, maybe you meant a different fascist from the 1920's and 1930's.

[B. W.]

Hi Rick,

Actually, Hitler in reality was far left – on the same plane as communism as both share same traits and goals. Primary difference was one State gaining and controlling the world verses a worldwide evolution into socialism.

Basically, it is now, time to never trust the left at all. The left in this country has been in a political war against the US Constitution for decades and divides between left and right. Tactic used is first establish boundaries of left and right and then stain the right in any shape or form. They’ll make Hitler look right wing but in reality, the left is only mirroring themselves. We must not be fooled.

If we are to survive as a nation and a people, we must organize, expose the left’s true agenda and business leaders, politically beat them peacefully, and if these fail any other action necessary. Their writings and speeches expose what they want to do to this country, bring chaos (Social Conflict Theory) to destroy the existing social and political order replacing it with what is not clear. You have those Obama Czars that desire it a good thing to eliminate at least 25 million Americans as a good thing - as their own words prove and many other odd things.

It appears the left desires to replace current US system of Govt with a dictatorial system that controls the population tyrannically. Also they would like to have about 4 or 5 major corporation monopolies controlling all the resources, pricing, and no competition allowed all enforced by a dictatorial Governmental system. This falls under the category of socialism of either Fascism or Communism type’s maybe a mix of both. Look at GE and its monopolizing of light blubs come 1-1-2012 as an example and whom they are associated with. Follow the cigar smoke leads you to find who the big chiefs are. Uncover the logistical command and control areas of the left and begin defaming the beast before it is too late and social conflict arises which they desire in order to promote a change people do not want.

The American way is this, leave us alone, let us raise our children, live our lives as we see fit. Live and let live. The lefts way is this change the American way to this; we’ll tell you what to do, let us raise your children (you can’t), We’ll tell you how to live your lives as we see fit. No longer will it be live and let live but rather, you, for the sake of social justice, some need to die for, needs of the many (State) outweigh the needs of the few (population).
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[Murray]

God only recognizes the 2 true faiths that follow his laws, Judaism and Christianity, nowhere in the bible does he speak of the Muslims false prophet Muhammad.

[Canuckster1127]

God only recognizes the 2 true faiths that follow his laws, Judaism and Christianity, nowhere in the bible does he speak of the Muslims false prophet Muhammad.

God might "recognize" faiths that follow laws, but he saves by grace.

[Murray]

Canukster,

If a muslim followed the true work of the quaran, he would be a terrorist,

The quaran demands the death of infidels, and to treat "followers of the book"(jews and christians) and cattle not people