WBC in Heaven

[Murray]

Well, recently while talking with my agnostic/Christian friend, she asked me, well what will happen to those who hate, kill, rape, ect...
My answer to this was "if you are truly sorry and repent your sin in front of god, he will forgive you", this then led her to say well what if Hitler had Jesus as his savior, to this I answer kind of faultily and untruly that "one cannot truly be sorry if he commits the same sin over and over again without any conscience about it". Later that day I really did start thinking about truly awful people that had accepted Jesus and the first folks to come to mind was the westboro Baptist church. They constantly disobey exodus 20:7, Luke 6:27, Exodus 12:31/Leviticus 19:18, Matthew 7:1, and many more I assume.

I realize that every person breaks numerous sins daily for the most part and that god forgives them, so that means that we will be in heaven with people who hate so vigorously, and turned others against god all their life. Does that seem right? I hate to think that it is not, but something tells me it is.

[Silvertusk]

I think we will be generally surprised who will be in heaven. If even the vilest offender repents before God and accepts Jesus into their lives then they will be saved. That is Grace. Even if Hilter repented at the end of his life and accepted Jesus - he would have been saved. Read the parable of the workers in the vineyard

Matthew 20:1

1 “For the kingdom of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire workers for his vineyard. 2 He agreed to pay them a denarius[a] for the day and sent them into his vineyard.

3 “About nine in the morning he went out and saw others standing in the marketplace doing nothing. 4 He told them, ‘You also go and work in my vineyard, and I will pay you whatever is right.’ 5 So they went.

“He went out again about noon and about three in the afternoon and did the same thing. 6 About five in the afternoon he went out and found still others standing around. He asked them, ‘Why have you been standing here all day long doing nothing?’

7 “‘Because no one has hired us,’ they answered.

“He said to them, ‘You also go and work in my vineyard.’

8 “When evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, ‘Call the workers and pay them their wages, beginning with the last ones hired and going on to the first.’

9 “The workers who were hired about five in the afternoon came and each received a denarius. 10 So when those came who were hired first, they expected to receive more. But each one of them also received a denarius. 11 When they received it, they began to grumble against the landowner. 12 ‘These who were hired last worked only one hour,’ they said, ‘and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden of the work and the heat of the day.’

13 “But he answered one of them, ‘I am not being unfair to you, friend. Didn’t you agree to work for a denarius? 14 Take your pay and go. I want to give the one who was hired last the same as I gave you. 15 Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?’

16 “So the last will be first, and the first will be last.”

Grace is something that can be quite unfathomable to many.

[Silvertusk]

Bear in mind also - that is someone has fully accepted Jesus - their nature should no longer be as hate - but of love.

[Murray]

Bear in mind also - that is someone has fully accepted Jesus - their nature should no longer be as hate - but of love.

When we exept jesus we live in grace not in law, so we are to recognize the gift that god has given us and to react to it in a loving manner. They do not react with love but with and and complete hatred of everyone. They scare so many away from christ, but yet they have accepted him, thats why it kind of seems like a wormhole to me