jpbg33 wrote:Good I didn't think I affined anyone that was why I didn't apologize earlier but sense others were apologizing I just wonted everyone to know that I'm not trying to affined ether.
But Back to the topic when I am referring to human reasoning being used wrong. It is when we take something from the bible and say that the consequences the bible say are there are more of less sever or that the bible say this but it really means this. Then that human reasoning is wrong. Not when we are reading the bible and understand what it is saying.
But you are using your reasoning when you interpret the bible, and state that it says what you think it says. Just like someone else uses his reasoning when he interprets scripture and disagrees with your interpretation.
In other words, there's nothing wrong with using reasoning.
John 5:24 24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
If reasoning keeps the same overall meaning but if it changes things then it is wrong because as humans there is know way for us to know other then what the bible says.
jpbg33 wrote:If reasoning keeps the same overall meaning but if it changes things then it is wrong because as humans there is know way for us to know other then what the bible says.
But we still have to interpret what the bible says. And how do we do that? Reasoning!!!
Are you not understanding that?
John 5:24 24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
Byblos, I see what you're thinking, and don't say it!
John 5:24 24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
I will put it this way the bible says there is fire there so if you say there is not fire there then that type of reasoning is wrong. We are not smarter then the bible.
RickD wrote:Byblos, I see what you're thinking, and don't say it!
You nailed it.
John 5:24 24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
jpbg33 wrote:I will put it this way the bible says there is fire there so if you say there is not fire there then that type of reasoning is wrong. We are not smarter then the bible.
So is it literal fire or metaphorical fire?
1Tim1:15-17
Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.Amen.
jpbg33 wrote:I really don't care if it is literal fire or metaphorical fire the fact is according to Jesus we will fill it and it will burn and be hut like fire.
So if it's metaphorical then it might mean annihilation.
1Tim1:15-17
Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.Amen.
jpbg33 wrote:I really don't care if it is literal fire or metaphorical fire the fact is according to Jesus we will fill it and it will burn and be hut like fire.
So if it's metaphorical then it might mean annihilation.
And there you go using human reasoning instead of what the bible says.
John 5:24 24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
