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Re: My journey
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:28 pm
by Furstentum Liechtenstein
Storyteller wrote:SometimesI just want to be loved, needed, cherished.I know I am but I need to hear it. Does that make me needy? Insecure? Vain?
Relax! It just confirms that you are a woman. It also confirms the biblical command that a man should love his wife, Ephesians 5: 25, 28. (Men don't need to be told they are loved, needed, cherished.)
Storyteller wrote:But then, when people tell me I'm I'm all those things, that they like me, I dont believe them
The above is insecurity. If they don't tell you these things, you doubt you are appreciated. If they do, you doubt their sincerity. Insecurity fed by a
damned-if-they-do, damned-if-they-don't catch-22 scenario. You've set yourself up to feel bad whatever the situation. Why? What aspect of your personality are you feeding with this? or, What are you gaining?
Re: My journey
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:37 pm
by Storyteller
Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:Storyteller wrote:SometimesI just want to be loved, needed, cherished.I know I am but I need to hear it. Does that make me needy? Insecure? Vain?
Relax! It just confirms that you are a woman. It also confirms the biblical command that a man should love his wife, Ephesians 5: 25, 28. (Men don't need to be told they are loved, needed, cherished.)
Storyteller wrote:But then, when people tell me I'm I'm all those things, that they like me, I dont believe them
The above is insecurity. If they don't tell you these things, you doubt you are appreciated. If they do, you doubt their sincerity. Insecurity fed by a
damned-if-they-do, damned-if-they-don't catch-22 scenario. You've set yourself up to feel bad whatever the situation. Why? What aspect of your personality are you feeding with this? or, What are you gaining?
But I dont feel bad, I feel choked, doubtful, I gotta live upto this kinda thing.
Christ is my role model. I want to be like Him, in all His glory. His humility, His grace, His love.
I cant, not in this life. But its still an ideal.
I used to think become Christ like? Lose me? My identity? Become a clone?
Its just hit me.
Thats not what He means.
I always wanted to know why I was special.
Finally, I think I get it.
Cos im me.
Re: My journey
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:39 pm
by Storyteller
Im gaining self belief.
Im daring to believe it might be true, me being these things.
Re: My journey
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:40 pm
by Nessa
Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:Storyteller wrote:SometimesI just want to be loved, needed, cherished.I know I am but I need to hear it. Does that make me needy? Insecure? Vain?
Relax! It just confirms that you are a woman. It also confirms the biblical command that a man should love his wife, Ephesians 5: 25, 28. (Men don't need to be told they are loved, needed, cherished.)
Storyteller wrote:But then, when people tell me I'm I'm all those things, that they like me, I dont believe them
The above is insecurity. If they don't tell you these things, you doubt you are appreciated. If they do, you doubt their sincerity. Insecurity fed by a
damned-if-they-do, damned-if-they-don't catch-22 scenario. You've set yourself up to feel bad whatever the situation. Why? What aspect of your personality are you feeding with this? or, What are you gaining?
The ephesians quote is specifically talking about the sacrifical type of love....
So unless its a sacrifice for the husband to say 'I love you' to the wife
then I dont think it really gets at what ST is saying. Though I do believe wholeheartedly husbands should do that
Re: My journey
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:47 pm
by Storyteller
Sometimes you get the answer to a question you havent even asked.
Re: My journey
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:50 pm
by Nessa
Though verse 28, husbands loving their wife as their own body ties in a bit better
Re: My journey
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:59 pm
by Storyteller
Re: My journey
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:03 pm
by Furstentum Liechtenstein
Nessa wrote:The ephesians quote is specifically talking about the sacrifical type of love....
It is also talking about conjugal love. See Eph 5:28...all of Ephesians 5 from v.22 to v.33 is about love, conjugal
and sacrificial...both of these end up being the same in the end. Ask Jesus.
Excuse me now, I think I'll
hit the bottle pour me a dram of Islay.
Re: My journey
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:05 pm
by Nessa
Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:Nessa wrote:The ephesians quote is specifically talking about the sacrifical type of love....
It is also talking about conjugal love. See Eph 5:28...all of Ephesians 5 from v.22 to v.33 is about love, conjugal
and sacrificial...both of these end up being the same in the end. Ask Jesus.
Excuse me now, I think I'll
hit the bottle pour me a dram of Islay.
Well, you really must be IRFC cos you didnt offer us a drink
Re: My journey
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:08 pm
by Furstentum Liechtenstein
Nessa wrote:Well, you really must be IRFC cos you didnt offer us a drink
Women are not really scotch drinkers, by and large.
For what it's worth, I'm having Lagavulin 16 years old. (IT is worth a lot...)
Re: My journey
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:13 pm
by Storyteller
I have Four Loves by C.S. Lewis.
Conjugal, sacrificial... its all love.
I havent read it yet.
And
Im drunk.
Again.
And I was doing so well.
So I pray
God
I give it to you
I try and be good
I fail
again
and again
and again.
One day
God
I wont
I know it
Because I believe
in you
I cant do this
not alone
so
its yours
Grace.
Thank you Lord, God.
Re: My journey
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:16 pm
by Nessa
Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:Nessa wrote:Well, you really must be IRFC cos you didnt offer us a drink
Women are not really scotch drinkers, by and large.
For what it's worth, I'm having Lagavulin 16 years old. (IT is worth a lot...)
That bottle is older than bluejay4..
So why are you
hitting the bottle pouring yourself scotch?
My grandad use to drink scotch, always looked to us kids like some awful medicine...
Re: My journey
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:21 pm
by Nessa
Storyteller wrote:I have Four Loves by C.S. Lewis.
Conjugal, sacrificial... its all love.
I havent read it yet.
And
Im drunk.
Again.
And I was doing so well.
So I pray
God
I give it to you
I try and be good
I fail
again
and again
and again.
One day
God
I wont
I know it
Because I believe
in you
I cant do this
not alone
so
its yours
Grace.
Thank you Lord, God.
Story
Did something new happen?
This is my go to song for when I feel like I cant do something - which is often.
Hope it speaks to you
Re: My journey
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:27 pm
by Storyteller
Yeah. Im drinking again
Just tonight, but still.
Re: My journey
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:28 pm
by Storyteller
cant see the vid, on kindle.
bang bang nancy sinatra sums up hiw I feel