Look, you could have just quietly broke off... but since you've now pressed me here let's see who is the one not thinking clearly.SkepticalSkeeter wrote:What on earth are you on about? I posted a dictionary definition that I found perfectly acceptable, and then Furstentum Liechtenstein replied that the dictionary definition was laughable, the only way to get an accurate definition was to pull it out of the Bible, and anyone who didn't do so was as ignorant as a mechanic without a cake pan, or some such. I also opted to stay completely out of your debate with Thad. Ease off the eggnog, sport. It's making your mind all fuzzy.Kurieuo wrote:Do you, or do you not accept this definition? Or do you too believe in Atheist Christians too if say, for example, an infant is baptised at birth into the RCC?
The irony is that, you did not get a snarky emotion and condescending lecture, but rather Thad and I were able to agree on this definition. Then what do you do? You seem to get snarky and smack Thad for me/him being confused by your words. No wonder getting consensus is so daunting here when a definition is placed out, and then snatched away.
You tossed two different and contrary definitions around. The first one that would make many Atheists Christian (Google's).
This FL rejected this no doubt because it leads to such odd absurdities such as "Christian Atheist " in addition to ignoring Scripture (which ought to be quite a valid authority for many Christian issues don't ya think? More so than any bloody standard dictionary Google scraped from).
Now I respect some infant baptised Atheists may like self-describing themselves as a "Christian Atheist", but no doubt the far majority of Atheists out there would very much despise being associated as Christian in any way, shape or form.
But, nonetheless, you start taking jabs at FL and other Christians here, introducing the second Merriam-Webster definition that you also embraced (even though it contradicts your first definition!). This MW definition being: Christian : a person who believes in the teachings of Jesus Christ
And then to put some icing on the cake, you get a little uptight with Thad for accepting your given MW definition, albeit in a paraphrased manner, but nonetheless the meaning is there, "follower of Christ".
Now I am puzzled what you believe "Christian" means. Especially since the two "dictionary" definitions you propose actually work against each other. But at least, I suppose, Thad and I came to a workable definition.
You keep your eggnog, and I'll get back to my beer. And if you don't like your feathers ruffled, then don't start ruffling the feathers of others.
Very much cheers to you.