Evidence for God from Science

RickD wrote:Ever thought about the possibility that God put in each of us, a desire to know Him?

A "God shaped" void in each of us, that only God can fill.

Ever thought that people call out to God when they are desperate, because God placed that longing for Him, in each of us?

That is hardly a new idea. More like moldy / tiresome.

You and lewis can let us know when you know the secrets of human psychology so well that you know it is not only the only logicsl but the only posdible
expoanation.

Audie wrote:

zacchaeus wrote:The issue is there is no hope... And if you die and go nowhere, why mourn, why care, why have feeling at all.

Maybe your issue is "no hope", its not mine

Because that is how people feel? People dont decide how they are going
to feel.

Well yes and no.

We all make choices.
If we choose to dwell on something extremely depressing all the time, we will more than likely become depressed. We have the power of choice. And what we think and dwell on can often greatly influence our feelings. So I would not say we are completely without the power to decide how we feel.

As related to what Ivsaid it isnt yes or no. People dont decide whether or not to feel anything st all.

Maybe yes maybe no?

Have you read the "If by whiskey" speech?

Audie wrote:

RickD wrote:Ever thought about the possibility that God put in each of us, a desire to know Him?

A "God shaped" void in each of us, that only God can fill.

Ever thought that people call out to God when they are desperate, because God placed that longing for Him, in each of us?

That is hardly a new idea. More like moldy / tiresome.

You and lewis can let us know when you know the secrets of human psychology so well that you know it is not only the only logicsl but the only posdible
expoanation.

Lewis is dead. He won't be letting anyone know anything.
Other that what he's already written.

So now, you're only contemplating answers that are the only possible explanation for things? Everything else you discard?

Audie wrote:As related to what Ivsaid it isnt yes or no. People dont decide whether or not to feel anything st all.

Maybe yes maybe no?

Have you read the "If by whiskey" speech?

No, but am open to it if you have a link?

Audie wrote:As related to what Ivsaid it isnt yes or no. People dont decide whether or not to feel anything st all.

Maybe yes maybe no?

Have you read the "If by whiskey" speech?

Just found it.

Like alot of things whiskey is a tool. Used for good or evil

Its not wrong in itself. Its how it's used.

You have to seperate the abuse from the thing in question.

Its like someone with a eating disorder, or food causing a person to choke.

Do we have different feelings on food? Food can be good or food can be evil?
Food is just that...food...
Just like sex, it can be used for evil but a healthy perspective is seeing sex as good. And the abuse of it as bad. The abuse is a seperate thing.

RickD wrote:

Audie wrote:

RickD wrote:Ever thought about the possibility that God put in each of us, a desire to know Him?

A "God shaped" void in each of us, that only God can fill.

Ever thought that people call out to God when they are desperate, because God placed that longing for Him, in each of us?

That is hardly a new idea. More like moldy / tiresome.

You and lewis can let us know when you know the secrets of human psychology so well that you know it is not only the only logicsl but the only posdible
expoanation.

Lewis is dead. He won't be letting anyone know anything.
Other that what he's already written.

So now, you're only contemplating answers that are the only possible explanation for things? Everything else you discard?

And here I thought it was just your idea that was moldy and tiresome. Discard that as an
"only possible"!

Nessa wrote:You have to seperate the abuse from the thing in question.

Its like someone with a eating disorder, or food causing a person to choke.

Do we have different feelings on food? Food can be good or food can be evil?
Food is just that...food...
Just like sex, it can be used for evil but a healthy perspective is seeing sex as good. And the abuse of it as bad. The abuse is a seperate thing.

That can be difficult, one's rstional mind knows that but the feelings
can be overhelming, as perhaps you know from experience.

Audie wrote:

Nessa wrote:You have to seperate the abuse from the thing in question.

Its like someone with a eating disorder, or food causing a person to choke.

Do we have different feelings on food? Food can be good or food can be evil?
Food is just that...food...
Just like sex, it can be used for evil but a healthy perspective is seeing sex as good. And the abuse of it as bad. The abuse is a seperate thing.

That can be difficult, one's rstional mind knows that but the feelings
can be overhelming, as perhaps you know from experience.

Are there some 'tools' you particuarly struggle with as seeing as good or evil?

Yes but if no hope then what meaning, if any do you find in life... Death would be bliss and life cruel and unusual. You can only decide to feel what you feel based off of preprograming- your wired that way, but why?

Nessa wrote:

Audie wrote:

Nessa wrote:You have to seperate the abuse from the thing in question.

Its like someone with a eating disorder, or food causing a person to choke.

Do we have different feelings on food? Food can be good or food can be evil?
Food is just that...food...
Just like sex, it can be used for evil but a healthy perspective is seeing sex as good. And the abuse of it as bad. The abuse is a seperate thing.

That can be difficult, one's rstional mind knows that but the feelings
can be overhelming, as perhaps you know from experience.

Are there some 'tools' you particuarly struggle with as seeing as good or evil?

Tools?

I was referring to your comment about separating, say, sexual abuse from
sex as such. Trauma can make that hard, regardless of logic.

zacchaeus wrote:Yes but if no hope then what meaning, if any do you find in life... Death would be bliss and life cruel and unusual. You can only decide to feel what you feel based off of preprograming- your wired that way, but why?

If your life would be so, I am sorty to hear it. You are talking about yourself tho, not me.

Wait so your saying you make yourself have a choice in whether or not you can choose to feel a certain emotion based off of your own power and energy to do so?
And I'm not speaking of myself friend, I'm asking you questions and your dancing around them.

Do you understand the difference in harnessed energy vs. Unharnessed energy?

Audie wrote:

Nessa wrote:

Audie wrote:

Nessa wrote:You have to seperate the abuse from the thing in question.

Its like someone with a eating disorder, or food causing a person to choke.

Do we have different feelings on food? Food can be good or food can be evil?
Food is just that...food...
Just like sex, it can be used for evil but a healthy perspective is seeing sex as good. And the abuse of it as bad. The abuse is a seperate thing.

That can be difficult, one's rstional mind knows that but the feelings
can be overhelming, as perhaps you know from experience.

Are there some 'tools' you particuarly struggle with as seeing as good or evil?

Tools?

I was referring to your comment about separating, say, sexual abuse from
sex as such. Trauma can make that hard, regardless of logic.

Maybe tools is not the right word - in this case anyway.
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