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Re: Happy Birthday Kurieuo!!!
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:24 am
by Judah
You're a mess WITH your spell check too!
Americans can't spell in English to save themselves... missing out letters, getting them the wrong way around, etc.
Re: Happy Birthday Kurieuo!!!
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:08 am
by BavarianWheels
Judah wrote:You're a mess WITH your spell check too!
Americans can't spell in English to save themselves... missing out letters, getting them the wrong way around, etc.
While this may be true...that some miss letters when typing...it is only the west coast Americans that speak the English language as it is intended...Southern California specifically.
I've heard many Aussies and a few Brits pronounce "Schedule" as Shhh-ed-jewel, and pronounce "School" as Sk-oo-l.
How is that? Why is it not "Shhh-OO-L"?
I've also heard "Patio" pronouced Pay-shhee -O...
Some Brits and/or Aussies...esplain.
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Re: Happy Birthday Kurieuo!!!
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:41 pm
by Judah
Ah-ah, NO! You are not missing letters out (or switching them around) as typos, but because you have
Americanised the English language.
Look at the following words and see what I mean... favourite, honour, flavour, savour, saviour, programme, centre, metre, colour. And those are just a few off the top of my head. This is English as it is written correctly - before Americans altered it to their own way, and still now after they have! Brits, Kiwis, Aussies write in
English, not in
American.
English is a language with words originating from many other languages over time, and thus the crazy looking spellings and pronunciations. Some letters are silent ones in one word, but not in another. "School" comes from Old English, whereas "schedule" comes from the Latin. There is a lack of consistency that make it a tricky language for others, for whom it is not their mother tongue, to learn. Pronunciations often depend on region, and on education, and on social class or status. Inconsistency also occurs where the rules get mixed, especially as one region merges into another.
But if you wish to speak "the Queen's English", the measure of spoken English, then you need to listen to Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth. Californians speak American, and actually are recognizable as such even
before they open their mouths. If you want to spell in English, rather than in the American alterations, then you will make those spelling corrections as I have listed above. And those are but a few!
Re: Happy Birthday Kurieuo!!!
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:25 pm
by Canuckster1127
BavarianWheels wrote:Judah wrote:You're a mess WITH your spell check too!
Americans can't spell in English to save themselves... missing out letters, getting them the wrong way around, etc.
While this may be true...that some miss letters when typing...it is only the west coast Americans that speak the English language as it is intended...Southern California specifically.
I've heard many Aussies and a few Brits pronounce "Schedule" as Shhh-ed-jewel, and pronounce "School" as Sk-oo-l.
How is that? Why is it not "Shhh-OO-L"?
I've also heard "Patio" pronouced Pay-shhee -O...
Some Brits and/or Aussies...esplain.
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Righteous Post, DUDE!!!!!
Re: Happy Birthday Kurieuo!!!
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:09 am
by Cross.eyed
Happy Belated Birthday Kurieuo!
BTW our Grandbaby is my "Bub" too.
Re: Happy Birthday Kurieuo!!!
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:15 am
by Gman
BavarianWheels wrote:While this may be true...that some miss letters when typing...it is only the west coast Americans that speak the English language as it is intended...Southern California specifically.
Southern California has got the English language down? Well for the record, those Southern California types are for the most part guilty for electing a governor (you know who) who can barely pronounce the name California. Next thing you know we will all be saying "Caliy-forna."
Re: Happy Birthday Kurieuo!!!
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:27 am
by Gman
Judah wrote:You're a mess WITH your spell check too!
Americans can't spell in English to save themselves... missing out letters, getting them the wrong way around, etc.
Ouch... It's time to drive off in my lorry. Hey, I got that one right huh?
Re: Happy Birthday Kurieuo!!!
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:31 am
by BavarianWheels
Judah wrote:Ah-ah, NO! You are not missing letters out (or switching them around) as typos, but because you have Americanised the English language.
Look at the following words and see what I mean... favourite, honour, flavour, savour, saviour, programme, centre, metre, colour. And those are just a few off the top of my head. This is English as it is written correctly - before Americans altered it to their own way, and still now after they have! Brits, Kiwis, Aussies write in English, not in American.
The more interesting fact about those words is that none are affected in pronunciation omitting the 'u' within the word or the 'e' at the end of the word. I suppose our "Americanized" English simply did away with that which is just fluff.
...and for the record...I happen to look forward to Arnold uttering the word California. It makes me smile to hear him pronounce it. At least he has a good excuse for "mis-pronouncing" the word coming from a totally different language.
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Re: Happy Birthday Kurieuo!!!
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:20 pm
by Gman
BavarianWheels wrote:...and for the record...I happen to look forward to Arnold uttering the word California. It makes me smile to hear him pronounce it. At least he has a good excuse for "mis-pronouncing" the word coming from a totally different language.
That's nice.... The problem here however is that Arnold has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the state, rather than German which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, The Terminator's Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5-year phase-in plan that would become known as "Austro-English" (or, if nobody will be offended, "Austrionics")..In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favor of the "k". This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan have one less letter. There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with the "f". This will make words like fotograf 20% shorter. In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horibl mes of the silent "e" in the languag is disgrasful and it should go away. By the 4th yer peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w"with "v". During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and after ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech oza. Ze drem of a united urop vil finali kum tru. If zis mad yu smil, pleas pas it on to oza pepl.
Next thing you know you are speaking German...
Re: Happy Birthday Kurieuo!!!
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:38 pm
by jenna
Gman wrote:BavarianWheels wrote:...and for the record...I happen to look forward to Arnold uttering the word California. It makes me smile to hear him pronounce it. At least he has a good excuse for "mis-pronouncing" the word coming from a totally different language.
That's nice.... The problem here however is that Arnold has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the state, rather than German which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, The Terminator's Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5-year phase-in plan that would become known as "Austro-English" (or, if nobody will be offended, "Austrionics")..In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favor of the "k". This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan have one less letter. There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with the "f". This will make words like fotograf 20% shorter. In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horibl mes of the silent "e" in the languag is disgrasful and it should go away. By the 4th yer peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w"with "v". During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and after ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech oza. Ze drem of a united urop vil finali kum tru. If zis mad yu smil, pleas pas it on to oza pepl.
Next thing you know you are speaking German...
Re: Happy Birthday Kurieuo!!!
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:57 pm
by zoegirl
now *that* was worth the trouble of reading!!!
Re: Happy Birthday Kurieuo!!!
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:17 pm
by Judah
Re: Happy Birthday Kurieuo!!!
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:47 pm
by Gman
Re: Happy Birthday Kurieuo!!!
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:39 pm
by FFC
The more interesting fact about those words is that none are affected in pronunciation omitting the 'u' within the word or the 'e' at the end of the word. I suppose our "Americanized" English simply did away with that which is just fluff.
Thank you.
Re: Happy Birthday Kurieuo!!!
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:10 pm
by Swamper
Gman wrote:BavarianWheels wrote:...and for the record...I happen to look forward to Arnold uttering the word California. It makes me smile to hear him pronounce it. At least he has a good excuse for "mis-pronouncing" the word coming from a totally different language.
That's nice.... The problem here however is that Arnold has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the state, rather than German which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, The Terminator's Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5-year phase-in plan that would become known as "Austro-English" (or, if nobody will be offended, "Austrionics")..In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favor of the "k". This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan have one less letter. There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with the "f". This will make words like fotograf 20% shorter. In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horibl mes of the silent "e" in the languag is disgrasful and it should go away. By the 4th yer peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w"with "v". During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and after ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech oza. Ze drem of a united urop vil finali kum tru. If zis mad yu smil, pleas pas it on to oza pepl.
Next thing you know you are speaking German...
Um...the "e" in "language" isn't superfluous...