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Re: Revelation 10: The scroll

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:38 am
by chrisb472
BTW: I found an article on the Internet which interprets all of Revelation.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/tbr/index.htm

I haven't had the time to read it yet. Not sure if it is a valid intepretation or not.
I have read the pages, finding the understanding and explanation is vague. Lets look at a better explanation.

Rev 10: 3,4.
And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.

“Their” will always refer to people, in this case it is seven persons that the bible call the seven thunders. NB. The Bible calls them the seven thunders.

We ran references on the word “their”. We asked teachers with degrees in English. We checked every available dictionary on this word (as explained on the tape). It all ends up with the same meaning: “Their” is a personal pronoun.

1) The Greek, Emphatic Diaglot
We took the Greek, Emphatic Diaglot , which the prophet refers us to, it is even more explicit. It says: And when he cried, spoke the seven thunders of themselves voices.

“Themselves” even more direct, themselves plural — “people”, voices — plural, seven men. “Themselves” can only refer to humans — that is straight from the Greek.

2) The Afrikaans Dictionary
The Afrikaans is also very expressive. It says ”Hulle stemme”- “hulle - personal. “hulle” is almal mense (personal).

3) The Portuguese Dictionary
RevelaCao 10:3 “E clamour, com grange voz, como quando brama, o Leao, e heavendo clamado, os sete trovoes, fizearm soar as suas vozes:

“As saus” means Their in Portuguese which means people

Now if you argue this, then go and ask your school fees back.

We heard that there are seven thunders — seven virtues brother in Pastor Gerald Blair's church in Durban that has a dictionary that says different. If anyone knows about a dictionary that reads differently please send us the details of it. We would like to purchase it because our website is read and checked worldwide.

Now the next question is: Who is these seven men? We told you who they are, and he says that the seven thunders can't leave the bible.

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The only place the word speaks about it is in Revelation 10:3,4. So he shows us to Revelation 10:3,4. And I for one wouldn't budge from their. It is direct quote and it is the bible. You have a problem to answer this quotation “who are they”

Second Point.
Revelation 10:3, 4 separate the thunders from being the headstone. “He” cried with a loud voice, "He"- Christ, the Headstone. Zechariah says the headstone cried grace to it. And when the headstone cry — then the seven men threw out their seven voices, and he never said that the seven thunders are the seven virtues, because that is not in Revelation 10:3, 4. This makes you love the bible.

If you want to go to heaven, stay in the bible. One broken word takes you out of the rapture. As we said you believe what you want to believe and the same apply to us.

I gave you the quote that he says that the 7 church age messengers is the 7 seals. That is so direct that it hurts any critic the 7 thunders is in the 7 seals as he says. And if they are the seals, then the thunders is in them. Which is the voice of God, straight from the bible and the quotes

Seals-
They were all the mysteries. They were hid in the seals, and they are to be revealed in the last days starting with Paul, Martin…” Direct from the bible he says they and he bring it to Paul and the 7 messengers.

This will always be the proper revelation on the thunders. Out of the mouth of two witnesses let everything be established. Remember that the thunders are hid in the seals — and he says the 7 church age messengers are hid in the seals.

When the 7 thunders brought forth their voices. 7 Thunder- s, 7 Voice- s. Brings the thunders to voices -7 of them - same like Rev. 10:3 DIRECT

7 seals are just the manifestation of the 7 angels of the 7 church ages. DIRECT No interpretation BIBLE Rev.10-3 and 4, and many quotes.

7 THUNDERS IS THE 7 VIRTUES IS ADDING TO THE WORD.

7 spirits of God refer to the continuous ministry of the same Holy Spirit of 7 man whom God identifies Himself closely.
CONTINUE RIGHT INTO THE 7 THUNDERS, 7 VOICES.

This explanation is by Pastor Edgar Hill Roscoe, http://www.eltabernacle.co.za.
I have changed a few things on this page.