Re: Logical Outworking of Morals
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:32 am
Cross.eyed,
I actually think, in the absence of this 'moral code' given to 'everyone', it developed because organization was necessary for early farming and hunting methods. After a while, as villages and other settlements grew with individual occupations the 'moral code' was based around not 'right or 'wrong', but who was most successful with certain achievements. This is Earth, competition wouldn't be less common at all no matter how far we return to a future date even here at the 21st Century AD. The 'moral code' would expand and grow as humans have, and there is nothing illogical about that even though
we haven't gathered specific data concerning this sort of thing (such as when exactly, who, what happened, how close or far is this from another historically important standpoint such as the separation of tectonic plates on Pangaea, melting of the Bering Straight, and other events).
It is a study and acceptance of honest opinions in the absence of theistic thoughts. It's not a choir or payment too any deities.
God purposefully implanted these 'moral codes' to conflict against each other constantly? It's 'logical', yet it still makes little too no sense. Wonderful.It makes sense that God would 'implant' a moral code into everyone.
I actually think, in the absence of this 'moral code' given to 'everyone', it developed because organization was necessary for early farming and hunting methods. After a while, as villages and other settlements grew with individual occupations the 'moral code' was based around not 'right or 'wrong', but who was most successful with certain achievements. This is Earth, competition wouldn't be less common at all no matter how far we return to a future date even here at the 21st Century AD. The 'moral code' would expand and grow as humans have, and there is nothing illogical about that even though
we haven't gathered specific data concerning this sort of thing (such as when exactly, who, what happened, how close or far is this from another historically important standpoint such as the separation of tectonic plates on Pangaea, melting of the Bering Straight, and other events).
I don't understand what you mean by saying 'impersonal events', 'personal morality' is as simple as thinking for yourself what is and isn't 'moral'. For example, a child gains 'personal morality' when it sees another being spanked or punished for some 'wrong' action. The child can decide with 'personal morality' how that event happened by doing something 'wrong' and experiencing the same thing or he can avoid that and the punishment altogether with a 'good' conscious. The event observed wasn't 'impersonal', because the child could react in a variety of ways and someone would have to explain the situation of why the other hand been spanked. What was 'wrong', what made it 'wrong', how do we reassure ourselves it was 'wrong', and what can we do to make it 'right'. All those aren't difficult to answer, however the answers themselves would expectantly not hold favor in a place that is well developed in making 'personal morality' a shared tradition amongst a growing populace of believers. The worldview of Atheism excludes any God as an 'answer', not just that of Christianity, Islam, or Judaism.What is not logical is that an atheistic worldview doesn't include God
and so believe we come by personal morality from impersonal events.
Atheism is the absence of belief, and preaching isn't done by Atheists in the same way that of Creationists or Televangelists.They are not preaching what they really do believe.
It is a study and acceptance of honest opinions in the absence of theistic thoughts. It's not a choir or payment too any deities.
No, it's not. What an Atheist 'believes' in the absence of theism doesn't require preaching or sermonizing of any kind.~SCThat is hypocrisy.