Evidence for God from Science

jlay wrote:My question to all is have you walked through the door of fear and trembling? This is why it is so imperative when we witness that we speak to the holiness of God. The 1st century church did not have the New Testament to share. They didn't have Lee Strobel and Hugh Ross. They were the NT, and they persuaded from the scriptures. The Law was their schoolmaster to lead to Christ. Jesus gave the Rich Young Ruler the law of God to humble him in the fear of the Lord.

On the say of Pentecost Peter's preaching created an interesting reaction. "When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, "Brothers, what shall we do?" Acts 2:37 It says that Peter WARNED them. When they were converted it says, they, "devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and to the fellowship." And everyone was filled with awe. Awe here is the Greek word phobos. Fear.

Wouldn't you love to see sinners say, "What shall I do?" The true gospel cuts to the heart. Because it IS GOOD NEWS for sinners. That is why people can not be saved with persuasive arguments. It doens't happen. Apologetics and such can only open the door for the gospel to be preached. It is not the gospel itself.

Imagine if someone told you they had recorded your most vile thoughts, and were going to show them to your loved ones. You would be fearful. How much more should the sinner fear his wicked deeds before the judge of the universe. In light of this how sweet, oh how sweet is the blood of Jesus. Good news!

jlay wrote:My question to all is have you walked through the door of fear and trembling? This is why it is so imperative when we witness that we speak to the holiness of God. The 1st century church did not have the New Testament to share. They didn't have Lee Strobel and Hugh Ross. They were the NT, and they persuaded from the scriptures. The Law was their schoolmaster to lead to Christ. Jesus gave the Rich Young Ruler the law of God to humble him in the fear of the Lord.

For the unbeliever, the fear of God is the fear of the judgment of God and eternal death, which is eternal separation from God (Luke 12:5; Hebrews 10:31). For the believer, the fear of God is something much different. The believer's fear is reverence of God. Hebrews 12:28-29 is a good description of this: “Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be thankful, and so worship God acceptably with reverence and awe, for our 'God is a consuming fire.'” This reverence and awe is exactly what the fear of God means for Christians. This is the motivating factor for us to surrender to the Creator of the Universe.

Proverbs 1:7 declares, “The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge.” Until we understand who God is and develop a reverential fear of Him, we cannot have true wisdom. True wisdom comes only from understanding who God is and that He is holy, just, and righteous. Deuteronomy 10:12, 20-21 records, “And now, O Israel, what does the LORD your God ask of you but to fear the LORD your God, to walk in all his ways, to love him, to serve the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. Fear the LORD your God and serve him. Hold fast to him and take your oaths in his name. He is your praise; he is your God, who performed for you those great and awesome wonders you saw with your own eyes.” The fear of God is the basis for our walking in His ways, serving Him, and, yes, loving Him.

Some redefine the fear of God for believers to “respecting” Him. While respect is definitely included in the concept of fearing God, there is more to it than that. A biblical fear of God, for the believer, includes understanding how much God hates sin and fearing His judgment on sin—even in the life of a believer. Hebrews 12:5-11 describes God's discipline of the believer. While it is done in love (Hebrews 12:6), it is still a fearful thing. As children, the fear of discipline from our parents no doubt prevented some evil actions. The same should be true in our relationship with God. We should fear His discipline, and therefore seek to live our lives in such a way that pleases Him.

Believers are not to be scared of God. We have no reason to be scared of Him. We have His promise that nothing can separate us from His love (Romans 8:38-39). We have His promise that He will never leave us or forsake us (Hebrews 13:5). Fearing God means having such a reverence for Him that it has a great impact on the way we live our lives. The fear of God is respecting Him, obeying Him, submitting to His discipline, and worshipping Him in awe.

Source: http://www.gotquestions.org/fear-God.html

On the say of Pentecost Peter's preaching created an interesting reaction. "When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, "Brothers, what shall we do?" Acts 2:37 It says that Peter WARNED them. When they were converted it says, they, "devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and to the fellowship." And everyone was filled with awe. Awe here is the Greek word phobos. Fear.

Wouldn't you love to see sinners say, "What shall I do?" The true gospel cuts to the heart. Because it IS GOOD NEWS for sinners. That is why people can not be saved with persuasive arguments. It doens't happen. Apologetics and such can only open the door for the gospel to be preached. It is not the gospel itself.

Imagine if someone told you they had recorded your most vile thoughts, and were going to show them to your loved ones. You would be fearful. How much more should the sinner fear his wicked deeds before the judge of the universe. In light of this how sweet, oh how sweet is the blood of Jesus. Good news!

DannyM wrote:...I do have a sense of wonderment at the Lord. I'm in absolute awe of him; but I don't fear him in any way. Why would I fear him? The metaphor of the fear of a parent doesn't do it for me. The Lord is full of love and glory and there is nothing that I fear.

I fear the alternative; I fear life *without* the Lord. Man should fear Hell and oblivion and therefore reject option number 2. Man's spirit needs to be rekindled and the soul pumping with the knowledge of God's existence...

Are you trying to teach the gospel to me or something?

ageofknowledge wrote:Make no mistake: there IS going to be an accounting and it will be more drastic than anything that has ever preceded it and anything that ever follows it. God has a bone to pick with a great host of angels and humans that rebelled against Him and chose evil instead of His rightousness. Tick tick tick... the clock's running down. There's still time to avoid that fate but once that clock stops, your time is up, your silver cord snaps: and it's curtains for you if you're name isn't written in the lamb's book of life.

jlay wrote:1 Peter 2:17
Show proper respect to everyone: Love the brotherhood of believers, fear God, honor the king.

Revelation 19:5
Then a voice came from the throne, saying: "Praise our God, all you his servants, you who fear him, both small and great!"

Acts 5:5
When Ananias heard this, he fell down and died. And great fear seized all who heard what had happened.

Acts 5:11
Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these events.

Acts 9:31
Then the church throughout Judea, Galilee and Samaria enjoyed a time of peace. It was strengthened; and encouraged by the Holy Spirit, it grew in numbers, living in the fear of the Lord.

Acts 10:35
but accepts men from every nation who fear him and do what is right.

Acts 13:26
"Brothers, children of Abraham, and you God-fearing Gentiles, it is to us that this message of salvation has been sent.

Romans 3:18
"There is no fear of God before their eyes."


I'm afraid you asking the wrong question. The question is how can we reconcile the verses that say we are not to fear with the ones that do.