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Re: Dark Matter

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:12 am
by 1over137
ManOfScience wrote: The LHC crossed beams at 7 TeV (3.5 TeV each) today. All four (main) experiments reported seeing collisions. Maybe we'll soon have evidence of the supersymmetric particles that are thought to make up dark matter.
The air is getting thin for supersymmetry.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2 ... nding.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14680570

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... and it is such a wonderful theory ...

Re: Dark Matter

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:26 pm
by Murray
the question is why is there life? How does it exist?

It is almost mind popping (great term , I know ;) ) to think that life exist! Just the state of being is astounding. I do not believe that vacuum is nothing ( It is something), and I do not believe that the state of being, being in control of your body, can be explained by nature. ( Questions like this are what stole me from atheism)

If I ever found some fault in my Christian beliefs I'd just become a deist or Buddhist, I KNOW there is something, there IS some life-force, there IS a soul, the evidence is in you friends :ebiggrin:

Think, think about how you are in control of this body, it just drives me insane that people do not think about this .ahhhh y#-o

Re: Dark Matter

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:11 pm
by Byblos
Murray wrote:... I do not believe that vacuum is nothing ( It is something)...
That's absolutely right. Vacuum is not nothing, it implies the existence of space (even space/time). Nothing is nothing, not even a vacuum.

Re: Dark Matter

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:48 pm
by 1over137
Byblos wrote: That's absolutely right. Vacuum is not nothing, it implies the existence of space (even space/time). Nothing is nothing, not even a vacuum.
According to the relativity theory, space and time are not absolute but relative to the observer, and both are interwoven into a 4-dimensional space-time continuum. Einstein said:
"It was formerly believed that if all material things disappeared out of the universe, only time and space would be left. According to the relativity theory, however, time and space disappear together with the things."

Re: Dark Matter

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:10 am
by Byblos
1over137 wrote:
Byblos wrote: That's absolutely right. Vacuum is not nothing, it implies the existence of space (even space/time). Nothing is nothing, not even a vacuum.
According to the relativity theory, space and time are not absolute but relative to the observer, and both are interwoven into a 4-dimensional space-time continuum. Einstein said:
"It was formerly believed that if all material things disappeared out of the universe, only time and space would be left. According to the relativity theory, however, time and space disappear together with the things."
And where does that say anything about a vacuum? The speed of light can be measured inside a vacuum.

Re: Dark Matter

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:54 am
by 1over137
Byblos wrote:
1over137 wrote:
Byblos wrote: That's absolutely right. Vacuum is not nothing, it implies the existence of space (even space/time). Nothing is nothing, not even a vacuum.
According to the relativity theory, space and time are not absolute but relative to the observer, and both are interwoven into a 4-dimensional space-time continuum. Einstein said:
"It was formerly believed that if all material things disappeared out of the universe, only time and space would be left. According to the relativity theory, however, time and space disappear together with the things."
And where does that say anything about a vacuum? The speed of light can be measured inside a vacuum.
Vacuum has energy and also effects spacetime.

Re: Dark Matter

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:09 am
by Byblos
1over137 wrote:
Byblos wrote:
1over137 wrote:
Byblos wrote: That's absolutely right. Vacuum is not nothing, it implies the existence of space (even space/time). Nothing is nothing, not even a vacuum.
According to the relativity theory, space and time are not absolute but relative to the observer, and both are interwoven into a 4-dimensional space-time continuum. Einstein said:
"It was formerly believed that if all material things disappeared out of the universe, only time and space would be left. According to the relativity theory, however, time and space disappear together with the things."
And where does that say anything about a vacuum? The speed of light can be measured inside a vacuum.
Vacuum has energy and also effects spacetime.
Exactly.