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Re: israel !

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:44 am
by DannyM
Fürstentum Liechtenstein wrote:Absolutely & completely certain.
And yet you refer to the internationally derided wikipedia for support?
Fürstentum Liechtenstein wrote:1. I'm not interested in giving British Israelism any publicity.
Eh? By NOT presenting a case you give it publicity. By exposing it you would be turning that publicity into worthwhile publicity. For everyone.
Fürstentum Liechtenstein wrote:2. Heretics (you might want to check the definition of «heresy» BTW) are that way through pride..
Nope, I'm fine thanks: I know the definition of heresy. TallMan might be a heretic, and he might be that way through pride. I must say I admire your superhuman powers of deduction.
Fürstentum Liechtenstein wrote:3. There are excellent resources explaining this heresy which any interested person can look into, namely....
Cool. That's more like it...
Fürstentum Liechtenstein wrote:Most importantly: read your Bible, understand your Bible. False beliefs and cults may come as a result of «understanding» the Bible through the eyes of a guru.

FL
I read my bible. I understand as best I can. As I said, I'm not the least interested in British Israelism; I was more concerned with your hit & run on a brother.

Re: israel !

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:43 pm
by Furstentum Liechtenstein
DannyM wrote:And yet you refer to the internationally derided wikipedia for support?
You're getting a little angry there, Danny!

I never refer to wikipedia as I think it is crap. B.W. brought up the wikipedia link and I simply said,
Fürstentum Liechtenstein wrote:B.W. provided a wikipedia link. The first part of the article seems OK to me.
Actually, when I re-read the article, I found some junk in there, but such is the nature of British Israelism anyway. I did, however, provide a link to wikinoah so that people could see what Orthodox Jews think of this heresy.
DannyM wrote:Eh? By NOT presenting a case you give it publicity. By exposing it you would be turning that publicity into worthwhile publicity. For everyone.
Nah...most people just don't care and won't bother to ever find out about this heresy. Human nature is on my side! For those who are interested, the two books I spoke of earlier,
Fürstentum Liechtenstein wrote:-The History of the Ten Lost Tribes; Anglo Israelism Explained by David Baron, available today at Amazon (I checked for you!)
-Jacob's Dozen, A Prophetic Look at the Tribes of Israel by William Varner, available at m http://www.foi.org
...are both excellent resources. Both are by Messianic Jewish scholars.

FL

Re: israel !

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:06 am
by DannyM
Fürstentum Liechtenstein wrote:You're getting a little angry there, Danny!
Oh no! You pulled the "angry" card! Tut-tut FL. Apart from having the worst man flu/head cold in the history of man flu/head colds I'm tickety boo.
Fürstentum Liechtenstein wrote:B.W. provided a wikipedia link. The first part of the article seems OK to me.
That's what I meant: you referred TallMan to that link provided by B.W. But this is now becoming tedious, with myself at least partly to blame. I made my point; it wasn't a very noble point, but a point nonetheless. And it was a point made without any anger or malice.

Re: israel !

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:27 pm
by Furstentum Liechtenstein
DannyM wrote: Apart from having the worst man flu/head cold in the history of man flu/head colds I'm tickety boo.
A head cold? So...you're not a woman?
DannyM wrote:That's what I meant: you referred TallMan to that link provided by B.W.
No, no, no. I would never refer any heretic to a wiki link and I doubt that B.W. would either. I just approved of the link for those who did not know about the heresy and wanted to have an overview. Moreover, anyone engrossed in false doctrine won't be convinced by books from scholars refuting their ideas either. I should add that I think it is possible to be saved and consider oneself a British Israelist. (British Israelism is not on the same level of heresy as Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons.)
DannyM wrote:But this is now becoming tedious, with myself at least partly to blame.
Of course, from my point of view, you are entirely to blame and should be severely reprimanded.
DannyM wrote:I made my point; it wasn't a very noble point, but a point nonetheless.
I've been to Noble Point! A very, very beautiful part of God's earth! Are you from there?
DannyM wrote: And it was a point made without any anger or malice.
Nothing God makes can be in anger or malice...and certainly not Noble Point!

FL :incense: :soap: :amen:

Re: israel !

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:17 pm
by B. W.
Fürstentum Liechtenstein and DannyM the wikipedia link was merely a reference where one could easily begin to do his/her own research glad you caught the link!

Yes wikipedia is not the best but often it does point out varied links people can check out or look into over search engines on the web :eugeek:

The DNA testing is enough to emperically disprove this anglo Israelism doctrine. The bible makes it plain that we afe grafted into the true tree just as Romans 11:1-36 plainly points out. This Anglo Israelism doctrine boasts against the Branches which Paul warns not too do!
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Re: israel !

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:42 pm
by Canuckster1127
Wikipedia is a secondary source. It's not acceptable for a purely academic reference. That doesn't mean however that it is without value. Often it serves as a great place to jump to primary sources. You take it on a case by case basis.

Re: israel !

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:59 am
by DannyM
Fürstentum Liechtenstein wrote: A head cold? So...you're not a woman?
I wasn't the last time I checked.
Fürstentum Liechtenstein wrote:No, no, no. I would never refer any heretic to a wiki link and I doubt that B.W. would either. I just approved of the link for those who did not know about the heresy and wanted to have an overview. Moreover, anyone engrossed in false doctrine won't be convinced by books from scholars refuting their ideas either. I should add that I think it is possible to be saved and consider oneself a British Israelist. (British Israelism is not on the same level of heresy as Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons.)
That's very noble of you...
Fürstentum Liechtenstein wrote:Of course, from my point of view, you are entirely to blame and should be severely reprimanded.
I know. I'm awaiting admonishment.
Fürstentum Liechtenstein wrote:I've been to Noble Point! A very, very beautiful part of God's earth! Are you from there?

Nothing God makes can be in anger or malice...and certainly not Noble Point!
A very admirable retort I'm sure :)

Re: israel !

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 4:16 pm
by Furstentum Liechtenstein
What with the Obama/Biden/Clinton lambasting of Israel going on as I write this, this article seems í  propos. Those interested in God's Chosen people and the timepiece that is Israel will appreciate:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/03/ ... _nazi.html

FL