"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands." (Psalm 19:1)
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Sorry it is something i feel passionate about, you should to! Space exploration is exciting.zoegirl wrote:Kristoff, lay off the rhetoric and actually discuss things instead of putting words in other's mouths.
Space exploration is exciting? You sound like you're talking from experience.Kristoffer wrote:Sorry it is something i feel passionate about, you should to! Space exploration is exciting.zoegirl wrote:Kristoff, lay off the rhetoric and actually discuss things instead of putting words in other's mouths.
Evolution. No question about it! If not then magic and magic is harder to accept, takes much more faith to believe in magical power than to believe in a little bit of natural selection and some luck.zoegirl wrote:Amazingly enough, you will find many people here who are just as passionate. Remember, ultimately this is an OLD earth site. Most here enjoy talking about HOW He did it.
I guess that depends on your starting presuppositions.Kristoffer wrote:Evolution. No question about it! If not then magic and magic is harder to accept, takes much more faith to believe in magical power than to believe in a little bit of natural selection and some luck.zoegirl wrote:Amazingly enough, you will find many people here who are just as passionate. Remember, ultimately this is an OLD earth site. Most here enjoy talking about HOW He did it.
Miracles anyone? Evolution requires magic too.. Even Darwin admitted this, as he stated, “To admit all this is, as it seems to me, to enter into the realms of miracle, and to leave those of science.”Kristoffer wrote:Evolution. No question about it! If not then magic and magic is harder to accept, takes much more faith to believe in magical power than to believe in a little bit of natural selection and some luck.
i have searched a lot to find a satisfying answer. Yours seems the best so far.Gman wrote:I tried to explain it best here.. Basically the atmosphere was cleared to reveal the sun and stars on day 4. In the fourth day it doesn't say that God created the sun, moon and the stars. It states that he "made" them, which is the Hebrew word "asa" translated as the verb "made". When the Hebrew word "asa" is used it is usually used to denote an action already completed.ElShamah wrote:Day-Age Interpretation
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/day-age.html
day one
This was the light of the Sun (already created) which now "separated light from darkness"
how can rich deem make that assertion, if the bible states cleartly, the sun was created at day 4?
1:16 And God made the two great lights, the greater light to govern the day, and the lesser light to govern the night; He made the stars also.
Genesis 1:16 And God made the two great lights, the greater light to govern the day, and the lesser light to govern the night; He made the stars also.
Genesis 1:16 simply does not specify when in the past the sun, moon, and stars were made. However in Genesis 1:1, it does says that it was created using the Hebrew word "erets" or "hashamayim we ha' erets," heavens (plural) and the earth (singular). "Hashamayim we ha' erets" consistently refers to the totality of the physical universe. All matter and energy and whatever else it contains....
The scientific proof for Genesis