Evidence for God from Science

RickD wrote:Gman,
I asked a question pertaining to a specific incident between Israel, and the US. I'm not sure how it got to this:

Who cares?? I wish them luck in their quest to try and de-throne God's chosen people the Jews..

I just wanted to know what happened to the USS Liberty. Period.

Yes... I told you is that God only knows. I don't.

RickD wrote: I'm sure that not everyone who questions the official findings, is anti-Israel.

No.. look at the website again.. This guy is anti-Israeli. He doesn't understand the situation.

RickD wrote: ISome just want to know why they were attacked by an ally, and don't trust OUR govt. I believe the blame for the coverup should fall on the US govt's shoulders. They have the moral responsibility to be honest withe the Liberty survivors, and the families of those killed.

That's up for the government to explain then.. Mistakes happen.. Time to move on.

Mistake will ALWAYS happen.. Always. There are absolutely no guaranties things will work out in a war. Never.. Even if you want to say it was intentional in the beginning.

Yes... I told you is that God only knows. I don't.

If you just admitted that you didn't know in the first place, and you weren't familiar with the incident, then we could've avoided all this.

No.. look at the website again.. This guy is anti-Israeli. He doesn't understand the situation.

I honestly don't really care if he is anti-Israel. The reason I posted his link, is because it summed up, albeit in more detail, what other accounts presented.

That's up for the government to explain then.. Mistakes happen.. Time to move on.

Mistake will ALWAYS happen.. Always. There are absolutely no guaranties things will work out in a war. Never.. Even if you want to say it was intentional in the beginning.

I have no problem accepting the mistakes that happen. As long as those responsible, take responsibilty for their mistakes, and don't just sweep it under the rug, like they did here.

RickD wrote: If you just admitted that you didn't know in the first place, and you weren't familiar with the incident, then we could've avoided all this.

Ultimately no one knows so you shouldn't be surprised at my response... If someone wants to chase a rabbit trail then that's fine by me.

I honestly don't really care if he is anti-Israel. The reason I posted his link, is because it summed up, albeit in more detail, what other accounts presented.

I would be careful about such people that propose such things, but that is just my opinion.. There are so many many people that want to crush the relations between the US and Israel that I've lost count.

RickD wrote:I have no problem accepting the mistakes that happen. As long as those responsible, take responsibilty for their mistakes, and don't just sweep it under the rug, like they did here.

Israel has... They have done their best to make concessions. There will always be problems in war... Always. Friendly fire, wrong coordinates, wrong intentions.. Whenever you get people together dumb things are going to happen.. This shouldn't be a surprise.. But that doesn't mean you destroy relations either. If we did that we would all be divorced by our spouses for sure..

Ultimately no one knows so you shouldn't be surprised at my response... If someone wants to chase a rabbit trail then that's fine by me.

How can you say that ultimately no one knows? There are still people alive who were there. They know.

I would be careful about such people that propose such things, but that is just my opinion.. There are so many many people that want to crush the relations between the US and Israel that I've lost count.

I agree. I have said for years that I believe a major reason why the US has been blessed by God, is because we have blessed, and stood behind Israel. So, you're preaching to the choir.

Israel has... They have done their best to make concessions. There will always be problems in war... Always. Friendly fire, wrong coordinates, wrong intentions.. Whenever you get people together dumb things are going to happen.. This shouldn't be a surprise.. But that doesn't mean you destroy relations either. If we did that we would all be divorced by our spouses for sure.

It just doesn't add up to a simple case of friendly fire, IMO. Who's calling for destroying relations? I would think just honoring the memory of those who died, by telling the truth, is all that is needed.

Israel is the apple of God's eye. If and when the US turns its back on Israel, that could be the end of the US we know. God will protect Israel, whether or not the US is on her side.

RickD wrote: How can you say that ultimately no one knows? There are still people alive who were there. They know.

And this Hart guy claims he knows the ultimate truth.. Well he doesn't.

RickD wrote:It just doesn't add up to a simple case of friendly fire, IMO. Who's calling for destroying relations?

Who's calling for destroying relations? This nut job Alan Hart is.. Clearly.

http://www.zionismbook.com/

RickD wrote: I would think just honoring the memory of those who died, by telling the truth, is all that is needed. .

And that is what Israel did...

LOL... This wacko claims that the 9/11 attacks were aided by the zionists..

And..

"Hart also stated that the Israeli operation which became 9/11 was likely aided by certain corrupt American leaders." Therefore he is also claiming that the US government had a hand in it.. People like this are complete wackos.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Hart_ ... h_movement

I was right.. Another crazy conspirator.

God will judge... Careful.

Gman wrote:LOL... This wacko claims that the 9/11 attacks were aided by the zionists..

And..

"Hart also stated that the Israeli operation which became 9/11 was likely aided by certain corrupt American leaders." Therefore he is also claiming that the US government had a hand in it.. People like this are complete wackos.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Hart_ ... h_movement

I was right.. Another crazy conspirator.

God will judge... Careful.

I'll say it again. So what if he is a whacko. It doesn't matter if he's crazy or not. What matters is if he and others are correct about a coverup. That's it. That's all I was interested in. I know there will always be those who are against Israel. If there was a coverup, it doesn't mean it was less of a coverup because a whacko believes it. If that were the case, we'd have to stop believing in Christ, because the wackos at Westboro Baptist, believe in Jesus.

RickD wrote: I just wanted to know what happened to the USS Liberty. Period. I'm sure that not everyone who questions the official findings, is anti-Israel. Some just want to know why they were attacked by an ally, and don't trust OUR govt.

Again... Watch out for these conspirators and their wacky theories. Obviously they are mad at the government so they come up with these preposterous claims to try to divide it.. Granted our government has it's problems, but a conspiracy? That is just dumb... The government isn't smart enough to hide such things.. It's the same guys that claim that NASA really didn't land on the moon. They are angry about paying taxes and how it is spent so they lash out by conspiracy theories or that they have drunk so much moon-shine that their brains have rotted out.

RickD wrote:I believe the blame for the coverup should fall on the US govt's shoulders.

Ok.. How much do you want to bet it isn't a coverup? It's these same guys who think that the government is hiding UFO's in Colorado.. Gimme freaking a break.

RickD wrote:They have the moral responsibility to be honest withe the Liberty survivors, and the families of those killed.

They already did..

Now here is MY theory.. I say that this crazy Alan Hart (whatever he is) guy works for the crazy president of Iran Ahmadinejad. In fact I wouldn't be surprised about that one bit..

Ok.. I'm going to bed or I'm going to start breaking furniture.. Dam, stuff like this makes my blood boil..

Gman wrote:

RickD wrote: I just wanted to know what happened to the USS Liberty. Period. I'm sure that not everyone who questions the official findings, is anti-Israel. Some just want to know why they were attacked by an ally, and don't trust OUR govt.

Again... Watch out for these conspirators and their wacky theories. Obviously they are mad at the government so they come up with these preposterous claims to try to divide it.. Granted our government has it's problems, but a conspiracy? That is just dumb... The government isn't smart enough to hide such things.. It's the same guys that claim that NASA really didn't land on the moon. They are angry about paying taxes and how it is spent so they lash out by conspiracy theories or that they have drunk so much moon-shine that their brains have rotted out.

RickD wrote:I believe the blame for the coverup should fall on the US govt's shoulders.

Ok.. How much do you want to bet it isn't a coverup? It's these same guys who think that the government is hiding UFO's in Colorado.. Gimme freaking a break.

RickD wrote:They have the moral responsibility to be honest withe the Liberty survivors, and the families of those killed.

They already did..

So, you think everyone who believes there was a coverup, and the US govt. hasn't been honest, are the same people that claim NASA didn't land on the moon, and is hiding UFO's?

Gman wrote:Now here is MY theory.. I say that this crazy Alan Hart (whatever he is) guy works for the crazy president of Iran Ahmadinejad. In fact I wouldn't be surprised about that one bit..

Now that's a conspiracy theory, if I ever heard one.

RickD wrote: So, you think everyone who believes there was a coverup, and the US govt. hasn't been honest, are the same people that claim NASA didn't land on the moon, and is hiding UFO's?

What I'm saying is that the the hand fits the glove. These same conspirators also perpetuate other lies too.. They are so hateful of our government that they will do anything to make lies about it to promote their books or make movies so that they can make money off it.

RickD wrote:

Gman wrote:Now here is MY theory.. I say that this crazy Alan Hart (whatever he is) guy works for the crazy president of Iran Ahmadinejad. In fact I wouldn't be surprised about that one bit..

Now that's a conspiracy theory, if I ever heard one.

Well I wouldn't be surprised if it's true.. Ahmacrazydinejad was saying that our government was the one that took down the towers on 911 so that they could start a war. This guy has absolutely lost his mind.. And for anyone to promote such theories should also have their head examined.