Hana, we are talking about people, to whom Jesus never spoke to.1over137 on Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:19 pm
neo-x wrote:
Those who never heard the Gospel - well, I think they will be pardoned, on some unknown criteria of which I have no idea about.
Jesus said:
John 15:22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin.
John 14:6
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Re: John 14:6
It would be a blessing if they missed the cairns and got lost on the way back. Or if
the Thing on the ice got them tonight.
I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
without.
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the Thing on the ice got them tonight.
I could only turn and stare in horror at the chief surgeon.
Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
and to a cold almost the equal of the Dante-esque Ninth Circle Arctic Night
without.
//johnadavid.wordpress.com
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Re: John 14:6
I know. And those people would have excuse.neo-x wrote:Hana, we are talking about people, to whom Jesus never spoke to.1over137 on Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:19 pm
neo-x wrote:
Those who never heard the Gospel - well, I think they will be pardoned, on some unknown criteria of which I have no idea about.
Jesus said:
John 15:22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin.
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6
#foreverinmyheart
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Re: John 14:6
Some theologians of the past believed that the core of the Gospel (outside salvation in Christ of course) was present in all forms of religion, the so called universal truths and in that regards, no one has an excuse to do with is "wrong".
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Re: John 14:6
Maybe James 5:20 gives some motivation to share the gospeljlay wrote:Murray wrote: This was my main concern. Whether a sinner has heard the gospel or not, they are still a sinner. If that were the case, then preaching the gospel might be the most counterproductive thing we can do.
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And nobody has given a direct answer (which I understand anyway). Can a Jew know/experience god without jesus?
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Re: John 14:6
Hasn't there been cases where someone has experienced God though some event in their life and then come to know Jesus after a journey of discovery.
As pertaining to the Jewish people i am not sure, if they have rejected the son do they not also reject God in that same action?
But then again i dont know as they are chosen by God as his people so maybe yea they do experience God.
Maybe ask someone who is Jewish.
Dan
As pertaining to the Jewish people i am not sure, if they have rejected the son do they not also reject God in that same action?
But then again i dont know as they are chosen by God as his people so maybe yea they do experience God.
Maybe ask someone who is Jewish.
Dan
1Tim1:15-17
Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.Amen.
Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.Amen.