Evidence for God from Science

Proinsias wrote:The two Louis Theroux documentaries on the Westboro Baptist Church are interesting watching if you've got a spare hour or two:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmIr9P-vkSQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ticxD0GfewA

He spends a lot of time with them and most of them, maybe not Fred, seem to like him.

I saw those, Pro. Strange television...

Here's an old calvinst hymn. Bring back the good old hymns, I say!

We are the Lord's elected few, let all the rest be damned; there's room enough in hell for you, we won't have heaven crammed!"

RickD wrote:Here's an old calvinst hymn. Bring back the good old hymns, I say!

We are the Lord's elected few, let all the rest be damned; there's room enough in hell for you, we won't have heaven crammed!"

Rick, sounds a bit arrogant, sure. Is it unbiblical?

DannyM wrote:

RickD wrote:Here's an old calvinst hymn. Bring back the good old hymns, I say!

We are the Lord's elected few, let all the rest be damned; there's room enough in hell for you, we won't have heaven crammed!"

Rick, sounds a bit arrogant, sure. Is it unbiblical?

I would say it's biblical, in as much as Calvinism is biblical.

Louis does give a good window into the lives of very strange people.

The anti-Jewish one he did got quite uncomfortable when they started asking him if he was Jewish:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlQUuNnykKs&t=6m45s

Murray,

I realise I may be steering your thread off into a certain area. My apologies. Say the word and I'll start a new thread. Your call.

Danny

i don't mind at all

Danny, I just pm'd you the WBC website. I think you'll really like it. It seems right up your alley, with your "Why should I love those who God doesn't love", theology.

is their website the god hates ----.com one? or is it something different?

Murray wrote:is their website the god hates ----.com one? or is it something different?

That's it Murray.

it won't even load on my computer :/

Murray wrote:it won't even load on my computer :/

I can't get it to come up on my work computer. It's blocked because of its hate speech content.

Somehow I just can't believe they're serious, although I don't know what their angle would be or what they would get with publicity. There's simply a complete lack of Christian love, charity, and compassion as clearly demonstrated by Christ. I just don't know how any Christian could possibly be so over the top, under any circumstance I just don't see it.

This is honestly one of those circumstances where I think the devil could be involved. We're supposed to be the light of the world, you'd hope that the world wouldn't judge us by these few but they don't know any better.

Somehow I just can't believe they're serious, although I don't know what their angle would be or what they would get with publicity. There's simply a complete lack of Christian love, charity, and compassion as clearly demonstrated by Christ. I just don't know how any Christian could possibly be so over the top, under any circumstance I just don't see it.

I believe I'm beginning to understand what Bart is saying about Calvinism, taken to its logical conclusion, results in behavior like the behavior manifested by WBC.

On another note, Narnia, I believe they are completely serious. Just look at some of the stunts they have pulled. And look at what the children in their church are saying. It's truly disgusting what hate they indoctrinate their children with. It's the same spirit, that certain Muslims use to indoctrinate their young children with, when they teach them to hate Jews.

RickD wrote:I believe I'm beginning to understand what Bart is saying about Calvinism, taken to its logical conclusion, results in behavior like the behavior manifested by WBC.

Well, then it is time to show how that is true. There is a huge gap between what hypers believe and teach, and what Calvinist doctrine is.