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Re: Which church is God's?
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:43 pm
by Murray
@ St. Monica.
They consider themselves primitive baptist, although all mainstream primitive baptists reject them.
Calvinism is not a division of Christianity, it is a theological system that is prevalent in protestant denominations. The main belief of Calvinism that sticks out to a lot of people is predestination. And the belief in predestination is what I think rick , jlay and danny constantly debate about.
Re: Which church is God's?
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:18 pm
by RickD
From their website:
Established in 1955 by Pastor Fred Phelps, the Westboro Baptist Church (WBC) of Topeka, Kansas still exists today as an Old School (or, Primitive) Baptist Church. We adhere to the teachings of the Bible, preach against all form of sin (e.g., fornication, adultery [including divorce and remarriage], sodomy), and insist that the sovereignty of God and the doctrines of grace be taught and expounded publicly to all men. These doctrines of grace were well summed up by John Calvin in his 5 points of Calvinism: Total Depravity, Unconditional Election, Limited Atonement, Irresistible Grace, and Perseverance of the Saints. Although these doctrines are almost universally hated today, they were once loved and believed, as you can see in many confessions of faith.. Even though the Arminian lies that "God loves everyone" and "Jesus died for everyone" are being taught from nearly every pulpit in this generation, this hasn't always been the case. If you are in a church that supposedly believes the Bible, and you are hearing these lies, then your church doesn't teach what the Bible teaches. If you care about your never-dying soul, you will carefully read every word of this web site, along with the entire Bible.
Re: Which church is God's?
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:22 pm
by Danieltwotwenty
preach against all form of sin
What about the sin of hate, guess they forgot that one.
Re: Which church is God's?
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:22 pm
by RickD
From the biography of the pastor Fred Phelps, also on their website:
Fred Phelps is a Five-Point Calvinist who urges all people to carefully study and discern what are the signs of the times (Mat. 16:3) in the light of the Scriptures rightly divided (2 Tim. 2:15) and church history from Adam to now. To hear his sermons, please see: Bread from Westboro Oven.
Re: Which church is God's?
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:24 pm
by RickD
Danieltwotwenty wrote:preach against all form of sin
What about the sin of hate, guess they forgot that one.
According to their site, they preach God's righteous hate, for sinners and sin.
Re: Which church is God's?
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:27 pm
by Danieltwotwenty
RickD wrote:Danieltwotwenty wrote:preach against all form of sin
What about the sin of hate, guess they forgot that one.
According to their site, they preach God's righteous hate, for sinners and sin.
I would like to know which new testament scripture they use to back those claims.
Re: Which church is God's?
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:38 pm
by RickD
Danieltwotwenty wrote:RickD wrote:Danieltwotwenty wrote:preach against all form of sin
What about the sin of hate, guess they forgot that one.
According to their site, they preach God's righteous hate, for sinners and sin.
I would like to know which new testament scripture they use to back those claims.
Go to their site. They have all scripture laid out in their articles.
They are a truly vile, reprehensible bunch. They are anti-Semetic to the core. They even say that God is responsible for the holocaust.
You Jews wouldn’t heed any of these warnings – including those of the Lord Jesus Christ –
and you ended up being slaughtered by the (however many there really were) millions by the Nazis from 1939-1945. God did that to you!
Re: Which church is God's?
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:26 pm
by Murray
I still can't get onto their website
Re: Which church is God's?
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:30 pm
by RickD
Murray wrote:I still can't get onto their website
You probably have something on your computer that's blocking it.
Re: Which church is God's?
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:54 pm
by Danieltwotwenty
RickD wrote:Danieltwotwenty wrote:RickD wrote:Danieltwotwenty wrote:preach against all form of sin
What about the sin of hate, guess they forgot that one.
According to their site, they preach God's righteous hate, for sinners and sin.
I would like to know which new testament scripture they use to back those claims.
Go to their site. They have all scripture laid out in their articles.
They are a truly vile, reprehensible bunch. They are anti-Semetic to the core. They even say that God is responsible for the holocaust.
You Jews wouldn’t heed any of these warnings – including those of the Lord Jesus Christ –
and you ended up being slaughtered by the (however many there really were) millions by the Nazis from 1939-1945. God did that to you!
Yea i been there but i feel ill too much to continue reading, they obviosly are cherry picking their verses.
Re: Which church is God's?
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:57 pm
by StMonicaGuideMe
Danieltwotwenty wrote:preach against all form of sin
What about the sin of hate, guess they forgot that one.
Seriously. Last time I checked it's not Christian to say "God hates [homosexuals]. God hates soldiers." Or any of that nonsense.