Hinduism and Christianity

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Re: Hinduism and Christianity

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Ivellious wrote:Now I must point out your use of the term "soft Islam." Would you classify most Jews today as "soft Jews", because they do not condone murdering all the Islamic people in and around Israel? Pretty much all religions, a I said earlier, originated at a time when killing members of other religions was essentially commonplace. Most of the western world no longer practices this, despite doing so in the past. I concede this: The leaders of Islam in the Middle East have not gotten past this place in their history. There are a variety of reasons for this. But it does seem that most Muslims and Hindus in America and Europe, especially those born and raised in the west, are simply not inclined to practice such violence toward others. at least, no more so than Christians or Jews. Society has changed here. In the Middle East, sadly, it has not in many ways.
I don't mean to enter this discussion of yours and Neo's. I do think you both make good points. But, I want to point out that saying that Jews don't really follow Torah because they don't execute all Islamic people in and around Isra'el (I'm assuming in reference to the law found at Deuteronomy 13:6-11) is false. Executions cannot be performed unless the THEOCRACY of Isra'el exists, which it doesn't, and unless the court, the Sanhedrin, rules in favor of it, and the Sanhedrin doesn't exist right now. Between that and the fact that only members of theocratic nation of Isra'el who try to entice people to other religions, and not simply anyone who happens to be in the area (note that Deuteronomy 13:6 says family members and friends, not strangers or aliens, and Deuteronomy 13:7 mentions that other peoples worship other gods nearby without repurcussion), it would in fact be AGAINST Torah (Exodus 20:13, which forbids unlawful and/or arbitrary taking of life; Deuteronomy 19:15, which requires both multiple witnesses and evidence presented to and investigated by a court) to put anyone to death for that reason, or any, at this time.
"The prophet is a man who feels fiercely. G-d has thrust a burden upon his soul, and he is bowed and stunned at man's fierce greed. Frightful is the agony of man; no human voice can convey its full terror. Prophecy is the voice that G-d has lent to the silent agony, a voice to the plundered poor, to the profaned riches of the world. It is a form of living, a crossing point of G-d and man."
- Abraham Joshua Heschel
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