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Re: Robert Ballard finding evidence of a Global Flood

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:09 pm
by RickD
Sam1995 wrote:Quick question, were there people on every land mass in the world at that time? Because if not, a global flood doesn't logically add up

I don't know the answer to this, quite confident someone here does however ;)

SB
Sam, it depends on what "that time" really was. It's Hugh Ross' belief and Rich Deem's, that the entire population of the world lived in one area at the time of the biblical flood. So, while the flood wasn't global, it was universal, in that it killed all human life except for eight.

Re: Robert Ballard finding evidence of a Global Flood

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:16 pm
by Ivellious
Quick question, were there people on every land mass in the world at that time? Because if not, a global flood doesn't logically add up

I don't know the answer to this, quite confident someone here does however

SB
Depends on when you think the global flood happened. If you take to to be less than 6000 years ago like most young-Earth creationists believe, then yes, there is loads of evidence to suggest humans had spread to most parts of the world. If you believe it happened more like 30,000 to 40,000 years ago, then humans would not have spread nearly as far.

Based mainly on mitochondrial genetics and archaeological finds, maps like this are useful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map-o ... ations.jpg

Each colored ring shows the general time frame when humans (homo sapiens) reached that part of the world, in thousands of years.

Re: Robert Ballard finding evidence of a Global Flood

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:33 pm
by Sam1995
Thanks for your responses guys, something to think about!
Well, I am an OEC so I'll be looking at this from that perspective!

You're all great people! Pleasure to be a part of the forum!

SB :wave:

Re: Robert Ballard finding evidence of a Global Flood

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:45 pm
by RickD
Sam1995 wrote:Thanks for your responses guys, something to think about!
Well, I am an OEC so I'll be looking at this from that perspective!

You're all great people! Pleasure to be a part of the forum!

SB :wave:
Here Sam. Not sure if you saw this yet:
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetic ... flood.html

Re: Robert Ballard finding evidence of a Global Flood

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:35 am
by Sam1995
RickD wrote:
Sam1995 wrote:Thanks for your responses guys, something to think about!
Well, I am an OEC so I'll be looking at this from that perspective!

You're all great people! Pleasure to be a part of the forum!

SB :wave:
Here Sam. Not sure if you saw this yet:
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetic ... flood.html
Aye, I had seen it only a couple of days ago - made some good points!

SB y:-?

Re: Robert Ballard finding evidence of a Global Flood

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:22 am
by neo-x
Bible believing Christians worried about evidence that might actually support a global flood. Interesting.
Your statement somehow comes like "if you believe in bible than global flood is a no brainer."?
When we say something has a global impact, we are saying it effects the whole world.
The geography matters most, was the earth's landmass the same as it today, were humans present in Australia or america when this flood occurred?

Re: Robert Ballard finding evidence of a Global Flood

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:00 am
by jlay
neo-x wrote:
Bible believing Christians worried about evidence that might actually support a global flood. Interesting.
Your statement somehow comes like "if you believe in bible than global flood is a no brainer."?
When we say something has a global impact, we are saying it effects the whole world.
The geography matters most, was the earth's landmass the same as it today, were humans present in Australia or america when this flood occurred?
You can take the statement however you like. The statement is just what it is, questioning why Christians (OEC) would be so opposed to evidence that might align with a global flood event.

Re: Robert Ballard finding evidence of a Global Flood

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:14 am
by Sam1995
jlay wrote:
neo-x wrote:
Bible believing Christians worried about evidence that might actually support a global flood. Interesting.
Your statement somehow comes like "if you believe in bible than global flood is a no brainer."?
When we say something has a global impact, we are saying it effects the whole world.
The geography matters most, was the earth's landmass the same as it today, were humans present in Australia or america when this flood occurred?
You can take the statement however you like. The statement is just what it is, questioning why Christians (OEC) would be so opposed to evidence that might align with a global flood event.
Not really opposing, simply trying to find what makes the most sense within scripture :)

SB

Re: Robert Ballard finding evidence of a Global Flood

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:15 am
by RickD
jlay wrote:
You can take the statement however you like. The statement is just what it is, questioning why Christians (OEC) would be so opposed to evidence that might align with a global flood event.
Jlay, I'm confused. How does your questioning why OEC Christians are opposed to evidence that might align with a global flood, follow from the article that presents no evidence for a global flood?

Bart titled this thread "Robert Ballard finding evidence for a global flood". Where in the article does Ballard offer evidence of a global flood?

I have no problem discussing evidence of a global flood, if someone presents such evidence. I wasn't even having a problem with a global flood in this thread. My problem is in why Bart titled the thread the way he did.

If Bart started this thread with the intentions of stirring the pot, he succeeded.

Re: Robert Ballard finding evidence of a Global Flood

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:16 am
by Canuckster1127
Sorry for confusion on the Thread Title. I didn't mean to overstate the claims of the article.

Re: Robert Ballard finding evidence of a Global Flood

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:53 am
by jlay
Rick,

I read the article. Agreed, it only presents evidence of a major flood around the time of Noah. No where in this have I argued for a global flood.